It's hard to have a reasonable discussion about Tesla or Musk here or anywhere in general. Some mix of emotions or conflict of interest or both is going to res

It's hard to have a reasonable discussion about Tesla or Musk here or anywhere in general. Some mix of emotions or conflict of interest or both is going to result in disjoint and irrational posts. I tried to move the discussion to data and fair comparisons in another thread but it only results in sneers and derision. And I'm not a huge fan of Musk, especially his recent behavior with Twitter, but I try to be fair and data driven at least.