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I found the writer to be downright empathetic. People make these decisions on purpose to cause their employees this much pain and you're worried about defending

by cschep 4y ago

I found the writer to be downright empathetic. People make these decisions on purpose to cause their employees this much pain and you're worried about defending their feelings from a writer who is actually deploying empathy? I am so confused by this position. If the writing was nasty and exposing specifics, sure, but it very much is not.

rcoveson 4y ago
I'm not defeding the "feelings" of the company. I'm pointing out unprofessional behavior encouraged by a culture of oversharing. Journalists and other outside observers can and should write about corporate incompetence wherever they find it. When you're in a paid position of trust, though, talking about your client's failings is tacky. I agree that the writing isn't nasty. The specificity is the key. I guess to some people this came across as sufficiently anonymized. To me, it seems like anybody working at this place knows that the auther is talking about their company, which is a problem in and of itself. But it also means we're just one equally-indiscreet reply away from knowing exactly who this is (something like "yeah, I work here and..."). Though I really don't think that even that much additional info is necessary to deanonymize this. Just a hunch; obviously you disagree.
luckylion 4y ago
> People make these decisions on purpose to cause their employees this much pain Do you actually truly believe this?
- cschep 4y ago
  I can see how the ambiguity makes it seem like I'm saying that I think the people made this decision to directly cause pain. That's not what I meant and no I don't believe they made the decision trying to hurt people. What I do think happened is that they saw how much pain it would cause people, then they looked at some fucking dollar amount and some spreadsheet and said "that's fine". I think that's fucked up.

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I found the writer to be downright empathetic. People make these decisions on purpose to cause their employees this much pain and you're worried about defending

by cschep 4y ago

rcoveson 4y ago
I'm not defeding the "feelings" of the company. I'm pointing out unprofessional behavior encouraged by a culture of oversharing. Journalists and other outside observers can and should write about corporate incompetence wherever they find it. When you're in a paid position of trust, though, talking about your client's failings is tacky. I agree that the writing isn't nasty. The specificity is the key. I guess to some people this came across as sufficiently anonymized. To me, it seems like anybody working at this place knows that the auther is talking about their company, which is a problem in and of itself. But it also means we're just one equally-indiscreet reply away from knowing exactly who this is (something like "yeah, I work here and..."). Though I really don't think that even that much additional info is necessary to deanonymize this. Just a hunch; obviously you disagree.
luckylion 4y ago
> People make these decisions on purpose to cause their employees this much pain Do you actually truly believe this?
- cschep 4y ago
  I can see how the ambiguity makes it seem like I'm saying that I think the people made this decision to directly cause pain. That's not what I meant and no I don't believe they made the decision trying to hurt people. What I do think happened is that they saw how much pain it would cause people, then they looked at some fucking dollar amount and some spreadsheet and said "that's fine". I think that's fucked up.