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Make a native app for Windows and Mac or something then... keep that stuff out of the browser.
by mattl 4y ago
Make a native app for Windows and Mac or something then... keep that stuff out of the browser.
- shadowgovt 4y agoWhy? The browser is a far more convenient deployment solution for the end-user: high-security via sandboxes and partitioning by default, temporary, no installation step required. Are we pro-web here? Because if the answer to hard problems is "make it native then," we might as well declare the HTML stack a dead-end technology.
- mattl 4y agoI'm pro-web. I'm also pro-watching TV things on a TV.
- shadowgovt 4y agoI don't own a TV and I don't know what a "TV thing" is. I do have a pretty large monitor on a wall patched into a desktop PC via HDMI though.
- mattl 4y agoIf I want to watch Netflix, etc I watch them on a TV with a dedicated remote. I’m not watching those things on a desktop computer attached to a big screen.
- shadowgovt 4y agoYou're welcome to your decision, but your decision shouldn't curtail other people's options.
- mattl 4y agoAnd yet we have DRM in browsers just so people can have a bad watching experience.
- shadowgovt 4y agoYou assert it's bad; it's simply not. Not to your preference, perhaps. And the DRM doesn't seem to be bothering you since you don't watch in a browser, do why begrudge its existence?
- mattl 4y agoIt’s absolutely bad. You may have a nice setup, but people watching TV shows and movies on laptop computers is a dire experience. I’m opposed to DRM in the browser on principle but opposed to watching movies and TV on laptops also.
- shadowgovt 4y agoI mean... Don't yuck other people's yum? It's fine it's not for you. It's weird to tell other people "Don't do that." People have all sorts of reasons to rig up their setups that way. Let people do what works for them. (Besides, I never said anything about laptops. I've got a desktop wired to my wall screen. Bluetooth trackball and keyboard on my coffee table. Works well, and I don't have to put up with the bad implementations of the Netflix app I've seen my relatives with cable boxes try to limp along).
- account42 4y agoThose other people could still install Netflix on their computer, which would probably even perform better and could even support things like IR remotes without the browser adding even more attack surface just because some people have a use for it.
- shadowgovt 4y agoThat implies they have to write the app N-ary times, which is costly. Browsers are the most amazing write-once-run-multiple platform so far.
- account42 4y agoI'm pro-web as in a hyperlinked web of hypertext. I am not pro-web as application delivery platform with unbounded complexity which is also available to sites that should be hypertext but use that complexity to restrict user freedoms. Calling a document-centric HTML dead-end because it doesn't suite your application (hah, get it?) is ridiculous.
- shadowgovt 4y agoDead-end in the sense that the use case you describe can be implemented by something that also allows for apps, therefore we can anticipate it will be subsumed by that something (much like previous services online were rendered obsolete / irrelevant by HTTP, a protocol that could vend documents that also hyperlinked to other documents).