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Game devs have similar issues. They need fairly wide API access, and if you don't ship inside of Steam, or have an exe generated from Unity or Unreal. Then Smar

Game devs have similar issues. They need fairly wide API access, and if you don't ship inside of Steam, or have an exe generated from Unity or Unreal. Then SmartScreen (part of Defender?) will often flag you.

hermitdev 4y ago
It's universal across the board, really, and it's been going of for a while. Nearly 10 years ago, I was doing MS office integration. Every new build of our addins got flagged by virus vendors. Norton in particular flagged us due to "reputation" which makes it sounds like you have a bad reputation, but what it actually means is not enough people have it installed, so they assume it must be a virus. Definitely makes it hard to gain traction as a small dev. We had to spend around 1k USD per year for the privilege of a code signing cert and had to jump through a bunch of hoops like submitting every build to Norton before we released. Very annoying and definitely a racket.
TillE 4y ago
It costs a flat one-time $100 for each game you put on Steam, which is a bargain compared to anyone's code signing certificates. Plus you get auto updating and everything in Steamworks. If you're remotely serious about indie game development, it's the way to go.
- chairmanwow1 4y ago
  Don't forget the 30% platform fee from Steam.
- bogwog 4y ago
  There's something so gross about this comment (or maybe there's a better word for it?). Valve is guilty of anti-competitive behavior, and effectively has a monopoly on PC gaming. > If you're remotely serious about indie game development, it's the way to go. It's basically impossible to be successful on PC without publishing on Steam. It's "the way to go" because there are no other real options, not because $100 is "a bargain".
flohofwoe 4y ago
AFAIK you can get around the SmartScreen with an expensive EV code signing certificate. For regular code signing certificate, SmartScreen will pop up until there are enough downloads to accumulate enough "reputation score" (which results in a chicken-egg-situation though).

hermitdev 4y ago

It's universal across the board, really, and it's been going of for a while. Nearly 10 years ago, I was doing MS office integration. Every new build of our addins got flagged by virus vendors. Norton in particular flagged us due to "reputation" which makes it sounds like you have a bad reputation, but what it actually means is not enough people have it installed, so they assume it must be a virus. Definitely makes it hard to gain traction as a small dev. We had to spend around 1k USD per year for the privilege of a code signing cert and had to jump through a bunch of hoops like submitting every build to Norton before we released. Very annoying and definitely a racket.

TillE 4y ago

It costs a flat one-time $100 for each game you put on Steam, which is a bargain compared to anyone's code signing certificates. Plus you get auto updating and everything in Steamworks. If you're remotely serious about indie game development, it's the way to go.

chairmanwow1 4y ago
Don't forget the 30% platform fee from Steam.
bogwog 4y ago
There's something so gross about this comment (or maybe there's a better word for it?). Valve is guilty of anti-competitive behavior, and effectively has a monopoly on PC gaming. > If you're remotely serious about indie game development, it's the way to go. It's basically impossible to be successful on PC without publishing on Steam. It's "the way to go" because there are no other real options, not because $100 is "a bargain".

flohofwoe 4y ago

AFAIK you can get around the SmartScreen with an expensive EV code signing certificate. For regular code signing certificate, SmartScreen will pop up until there are enough downloads to accumulate enough "reputation score" (which results in a chicken-egg-situation though).