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The claim being made in the original post and subsequent posts is that c++ is losing popularity. this claim is not true, and all evidence points to it gaining i

The claim being made in the original post and subsequent posts is that c++ is losing popularity. this claim is not true, and all evidence points to it gaining in popularity despite the HN echo chamber that it's too hard.

throwaway894345 4y ago
The original claim is "C++ is becoming a legacy language". This is clearly a claim about the trend of C++'s popularity over many years. You're trying to refute that claim with a single data point about one year, which isn't sufficient to refute a trend. For example, a single bad day in the stock market doesn't refute the claim "the stock market is trending up over the year". Moreover, your data point is probably just noise--a 4% swing when the error margins are closer to 50%. TIOBE is basically just guessing, and a guess isn't evidence. FWIW, I've been a professional C++ programmer, and I like C++.
- forgotpwd16 4y ago
  >You're trying to refute that claim with a single data point about one year, which isn't sufficient to refute a trend. Below the list a graph showing the ratings over a 20 year period is provided. It shows C++ declining until about ~2017 but recently starting rising again.
  - nindalf 4y ago
    Except Tiobe can't be taken seriously. https://blog.nindalf.com/posts/stop-citing-tiobe/ https://blog.nindalf.com/posts/stop-citing-tiobe/
nindalf 4y ago
I still see you didn't read what I wrote. Please, just take a moment to read before firing off a comment. I didn't make the claim that C++ is losing popularity, but I did mention some sources that do. These are marginal, not dramatic declines. Certainly not a terminal decline. - Number of people searching Google - https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=2012-07-31%202022-07-29&geo=GB&q=%2Fm%2F07sbkfb,%2Fm%2F0jgqg,%2Fm%2F01t6b,%2Fm%2F05z1_ https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=2012-07-31%202... - Number of questions asked on StackOverflow that month - https://insights.stackoverflow.com/trends?tags=java%2Cc%2B%2B%2Cc%2Cpython https://insights.stackoverflow.com/trends?tags=java%2Cc%2B%2... A far cry from the claim that it's "dominating and gaining", as you said.

throwaway894345 4y ago

The original claim is "C++ is becoming a legacy language". This is clearly a claim about the trend of C++'s popularity over many years. You're trying to refute that claim with a single data point about one year, which isn't sufficient to refute a trend. For example, a single bad day in the stock market doesn't refute the claim "the stock market is trending up over the year". Moreover, your data point is probably just noise--a 4% swing when the error margins are closer to 50%. TIOBE is basically just guessing, and a guess isn't evidence. FWIW, I've been a professional C++ programmer, and I like C++.

forgotpwd16 4y ago
>You're trying to refute that claim with a single data point about one year, which isn't sufficient to refute a trend. Below the list a graph showing the ratings over a 20 year period is provided. It shows C++ declining until about ~2017 but recently starting rising again.
- nindalf 4y ago
  Except Tiobe can't be taken seriously. https://blog.nindalf.com/posts/stop-citing-tiobe/ https://blog.nindalf.com/posts/stop-citing-tiobe/

nindalf 4y ago

I still see you didn't read what I wrote. Please, just take a moment to read before firing off a comment. I didn't make the claim that C++ is losing popularity, but I did mention some sources that do. These are marginal, not dramatic declines. Certainly not a terminal decline. - Number of people searching Google - https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=2012-07-31%202022-07-29&geo=GB&q=%2Fm%2F07sbkfb,%2Fm%2F0jgqg,%2Fm%2F01t6b,%2Fm%2F05z1_ https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=2012-07-31%202... - Number of questions asked on StackOverflow that month - https://insights.stackoverflow.com/trends?tags=java%2Cc%2B%2B%2Cc%2Cpython https://insights.stackoverflow.com/trends?tags=java%2Cc%2B%2... A far cry from the claim that it's "dominating and gaining", as you said.