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Looking through the examples, it looks exactly like Svelte syntax. Not saying this is a bad thing. Svelte is universally loved. But it does raise the obvious

Looking through the examples, it looks exactly like Svelte syntax. Not saying this is a bad thing. Svelte is universally loved. But it does raise the obvious question of why not Svelte. (Or Solid or Astro or...)

yuchi 4y ago
Marko predates scelte, by at least 3 years
anileated 4y ago
Per some tests as of last year[0], Marko[1] is much more performant than Svelte, which matters a lot for UX and for page rankings (especially in case of more complex sites). I’d expect Qwik to be faster than any of the above, but it seems not quite production-ready enough. [0] https://dev.to/this-is-learning/marko-for-sites-solid-for-apps-2c7d https://dev.to/this-is-learning/marko-for-sites-solid-for-ap... [1] In the Reddit the author mentions that, despite focusing on Solid+Astro in the article, Marko is actually still more performant than those: https://www.reddit.com/r/javascript/comments/ubs6i9/marko_for_sites_solid_for_apps/ https://www.reddit.com/r/javascript/comments/ubs6i9/marko_fo...
- beeb 4y ago
  Latest independent benchmarks indicate otherwise https://krausest.github.io/js-framework-benchmark/2023/table_chrome_109.0.5414.87.html https://krausest.github.io/js-framework-benchmark/2023/table...
  - rk06 4y ago
    This tests are referring to an unreleased version of marko which official benchmark, understandably, doesn't refer to. Hence this discrepancy is present
    - beeb 4y ago
      Right, I can understand this. In any case, it's very hard to define if something is more performant than something else due to the vast number of metrics available to estimate the performance. Are we talking DOM manipulation, time to interactivity, SSR, number of parallel requests? With today's full-stack frameworks, it's even harder to put a number on these things, let alone make a ranking.
pier25 4y ago
Svelte doesn't have partial hydration which Marko has had for years. Otherwise their SEO and CWF would have suffered. Same with HTML streaming. Marko has had it since 2014 and IIRC SvelteKit doesn't have it yet. I absolutely love Svelte but if you need those features then Marko would be a better choice.

yuchi 4y ago

Marko predates scelte, by at least 3 years

anileated 4y ago

Per some tests as of last year[0], Marko[1] is much more performant than Svelte, which matters a lot for UX and for page rankings (especially in case of more complex sites). I’d expect Qwik to be faster than any of the above, but it seems not quite production-ready enough. [0] https://dev.to/this-is-learning/marko-for-sites-solid-for-apps-2c7d https://dev.to/this-is-learning/marko-for-sites-solid-for-ap... [1] In the Reddit the author mentions that, despite focusing on Solid+Astro in the article, Marko is actually still more performant than those: https://www.reddit.com/r/javascript/comments/ubs6i9/marko_for_sites_solid_for_apps/ https://www.reddit.com/r/javascript/comments/ubs6i9/marko_fo...

beeb 4y ago
Latest independent benchmarks indicate otherwise https://krausest.github.io/js-framework-benchmark/2023/table_chrome_109.0.5414.87.html https://krausest.github.io/js-framework-benchmark/2023/table...
- rk06 4y ago
  This tests are referring to an unreleased version of marko which official benchmark, understandably, doesn't refer to. Hence this discrepancy is present
  - beeb 4y ago
    Right, I can understand this. In any case, it's very hard to define if something is more performant than something else due to the vast number of metrics available to estimate the performance. Are we talking DOM manipulation, time to interactivity, SSR, number of parallel requests? With today's full-stack frameworks, it's even harder to put a number on these things, let alone make a ranking.

pier25 4y ago

Svelte doesn't have partial hydration which Marko has had for years. Otherwise their SEO and CWF would have suffered. Same with HTML streaming. Marko has had it since 2014 and IIRC SvelteKit doesn't have it yet. I absolutely love Svelte but if you need those features then Marko would be a better choice.