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I live and work in the same town. I have a 5 minute drive. Our town has basically everything we need. I'd drive the shit out of a car like this. It wouldn't mat

I live and work in the same town. I have a 5 minute drive. Our town has basically everything we need. I'd drive the shit out of a car like this. It wouldn't matter if it has range. We'll probably have 2 cars until the kids are out of the house, so even if one of them is electric that's better than nothing.

petre 4y ago
A 5 minute drive is a 10 minute e-bike commute.
- bitschubser_ 4y ago
  in my case (also commuting within the city) a 14minute no traffic car drive is a 8minute (cycle expressways) ebike commute, it can also be the other way around :) heck, even with no traffic i'm often faster by bike nearly everywhere in the city
  - petre 4y ago
    Yes, it usually turns into 2x by car in a high traffic scenario here as well. My commute is 7 minutes by car or 15 minutes by bike (the regular type, not an e-bike). It includes a hill with about 100 meters of climbing but then you get to go downhill during the return trip. One of my colleagues doesn't own a car, has a longer commute and does it entirely by bicycle for most of the year.
- lelanthran 4y ago
  > A 5 minute drive is a 10 minute e-bike commute. But 5 minutes in the dry is not the same as 10 minutes in the rain.
  - petre 4y ago
    The get lots of rain in the Nederlands and somehow they seem to manage just fine. Mudguards fix 60% of the rain issue, the rest is done by a raincoat.
    - the_third_wave 4y ago
      You do get wet, raincoat or not. The solution is to simply accept that getting from A to B involves interacting with whatever the weather has to throw at you, realising that this won't do you any harm and just getting on with life. Once you're there life becomes so much easier. Get some deodorant [1] if you think you'll smell at the end of your trip. Yes, you might end up a bit sweaty but as long as you're reasonably clean that won't be a problem. Source: personal experience (I'm Dutch although I live in rural Sweden now) [1] make it yourself: half baking soda, half potato starch, add liquefied coconut fat and mix, use enough fat to get the consistency of peanut butter. Either dump it in a used deodorant stick (of the screw-up type, first screw it down of course) or just in a glass jar. It'll solidify into a semi-hard mass which can be easily scraped off for use, it is far more effective than the stuff sold in stores and works for a few days.
    - lelanthran 4y ago
      > The get lots of rain in the Nederlands and somehow they seem to manage just fine. Mudguards fix 60% of the rain issue, the rest is done by a raincoat. I didn't say it isn't doable, I was pointing out wrong the poster who claimed that 5m in the car is the same as 10m on a bike. Because even if you are okay with 10m in the rain, it is most certainly NOT equivalent to 5m in the dry.
    - WirelessGigabit 4y ago
      Even with the rain the amount of days in the Netherlands that the weather is unbearable is extremely low. Climate is much more extreme in large parts of the USA. Going from extremely cold with snow and windchill, all the way up to extremely warm & dry, or warm and humid, which means you need to take a shower after 2 minutes outside.

petre 4y ago

A 5 minute drive is a 10 minute e-bike commute.

bitschubser_ 4y ago
in my case (also commuting within the city) a 14minute no traffic car drive is a 8minute (cycle expressways) ebike commute, it can also be the other way around :) heck, even with no traffic i'm often faster by bike nearly everywhere in the city
- petre 4y ago
  Yes, it usually turns into 2x by car in a high traffic scenario here as well. My commute is 7 minutes by car or 15 minutes by bike (the regular type, not an e-bike). It includes a hill with about 100 meters of climbing but then you get to go downhill during the return trip. One of my colleagues doesn't own a car, has a longer commute and does it entirely by bicycle for most of the year.
lelanthran 4y ago
> A 5 minute drive is a 10 minute e-bike commute. But 5 minutes in the dry is not the same as 10 minutes in the rain.
- petre 4y ago
  The get lots of rain in the Nederlands and somehow they seem to manage just fine. Mudguards fix 60% of the rain issue, the rest is done by a raincoat.
  - the_third_wave 4y ago
    You do get wet, raincoat or not. The solution is to simply accept that getting from A to B involves interacting with whatever the weather has to throw at you, realising that this won't do you any harm and just getting on with life. Once you're there life becomes so much easier. Get some deodorant [1] if you think you'll smell at the end of your trip. Yes, you might end up a bit sweaty but as long as you're reasonably clean that won't be a problem. Source: personal experience (I'm Dutch although I live in rural Sweden now) [1] make it yourself: half baking soda, half potato starch, add liquefied coconut fat and mix, use enough fat to get the consistency of peanut butter. Either dump it in a used deodorant stick (of the screw-up type, first screw it down of course) or just in a glass jar. It'll solidify into a semi-hard mass which can be easily scraped off for use, it is far more effective than the stuff sold in stores and works for a few days.
  - lelanthran 4y ago
    > The get lots of rain in the Nederlands and somehow they seem to manage just fine. Mudguards fix 60% of the rain issue, the rest is done by a raincoat. I didn't say it isn't doable, I was pointing out wrong the poster who claimed that 5m in the car is the same as 10m on a bike. Because even if you are okay with 10m in the rain, it is most certainly NOT equivalent to 5m in the dry.
  - WirelessGigabit 4y ago
    Even with the rain the amount of days in the Netherlands that the weather is unbearable is extremely low. Climate is much more extreme in large parts of the USA. Going from extremely cold with snow and windchill, all the way up to extremely warm & dry, or warm and humid, which means you need to take a shower after 2 minutes outside.