There are debates which are illuminating (esp. when you first time hear some ideas), you get new POVs and see excitement in the speaker's eyes, and even numbers

There are debates which are illuminating (esp. when you first time hear some ideas), you get new POVs and see excitement in the speaker's eyes, and even numbers/data might add up to a point, but the overall ideas might be harmful/dangerous/impractical/too-nuanced/in-theory-sure-but Examples: - People should believe in god(s) b/c people believing in god(s) are more stress-resistant and are overall happier -> improvement of life quality - Everyone should pay the same amount of taxes - since they get from the state on avg the same amount of services -> fairness - Everyone should be paid the same for any kind of job if they put the same amount of effort/time -> fairness - Geopolitics can be described in a few catchy phrases (esp. in hindsight) - zero-sum games, rimland/heartland etc. - Richer and more achieved should have more kids (by law or consensus) than poorer ones -> it'll improve human gene-pool wrt cognitive capabilities People formulating and believing (and sometimes acting on) such and similar ideas are not rare. Having them as family, friends, colleagues, random interlocutors at a party and entertaining their train of thought, sure. But considering them as a partner in a company, advisor, someone you elect for public office... not so much.