I think you unfortunately talked past both my points. 1. I’m specifically NOT saying that C++ doesn’t have its merits. It does. It’s a very capable language. B

I think you unfortunately talked past both my points. 1. I’m specifically NOT saying that C++ doesn’t have its merits. It does. It’s a very capable language. But that’s different than positive mindshare, and I’d argue very few people genuinely like the language. Most people I encounter or see online seem to fall into apathetic about it, or want it to be simpler like C or more comprehensive about safety like Rust or have a better STD+Build system like rust. 2. Meson is great sure, but that’s why I specifically said PLUS ecosystem. Nothing really compares to cmake right now for the ecosystem and that’s a really big deal.