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You are basing this off of this single event? Once again, do you have data that steering wheels are falling off Teslas in numbers?

dragontamer 4y ago
I'm basing this off of Tesla's awful history. Multiple people have burned to death as those silly electronic locks fail and when the car catches on fire. Has there been any recall to fix this issue? No. Multiple people have died as 'Full Self Driving' has collided into walls and trucks. Has there been a recall? No . Multiple safety critical issues have hit this company over and over again, and they do nothing about it. I can say that Tesla will ignore this problem too.
- colordrops 4y ago
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  - dragontamer 4y ago
    > in comparison to other car companies. That's quite the strawman, isn't it? You're the only one who cares about the problem "compared to others". I for one, am tired of seeing people burn to death inside of Teslas. But maybe that's just me. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/driver-was-behind-wheel-at-time-of-tesla-crash-in-texas-ntsb-says https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/driver-was-behind-wheel-... https://www.oregonlive.com/nation/2019/10/florida-man-died-in-a-burning-tesla-because-its-futuristic-doors-wouldnt-open-lawsuit-alleges.html https://www.oregonlive.com/nation/2019/10/florida-man-died-i... https://www.wfla.com/news/florida/florida-jury-awards-10-5m-in-case-of-teens-killed-in-fiery-tesla-crash/ https://www.wfla.com/news/florida/florida-jury-awards-10-5m-... We all know that the electronic locks fail when the battery explodes in flames. We also know that Tesla cars manual override is rather... difficult. But go on, research the issue on your own if you don't believe me. Try to figure out the manual overload yourself. Seriously, it could save your life, so you really should look for it and train to use it. ---------- BTW: We're up to 50 confirmed Tesla Fire fatalities. https://www.tesla-fire.com/ https://www.tesla-fire.com/ And a LOT of these have the same issue. Car crashes, doors stop working. People don't know how to use the manual override and either burn to death, or break a window to escape. https://bc.ctvnews.ca/b-c-tesla-driver-kicks-out-window-to-escape-car-fire-1.5914147 https://bc.ctvnews.ca/b-c-tesla-driver-kicks-out-window-to-e... There's been no recall, no safety notice, no nothing. This keeps happening over-and-over-and-over again. I don't know what the NHTSA is doing on this matter, but the number of cases continues to rise higher and higher. So yes. When I hear "Tesla has another safety issue", I'm more inclined to believe that its Tesla's fault and they're covering something up. After all, they're obviously covering up this Fire + Door issue and have been for years.
    - colordrops 4y ago
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      - dragontamer 4y ago
        > If Tesla not to be compared with other car companies Because people burning to death while being trapped inside is rather terrifying. Regardless of what other car companies are doing. If you need a "benchmark" to measure how bad that is I don't know what's wrong with you. But personally speaking, its not how I'd want to die, or how anyone else I know should die. My Tesla-loving friends included. At some point, you need to stop comparing Tesla to other companies and start asking yourself: "Why do Tesla doors FAIL and lock their victims inside during a fire? Can this be fixed?"
        colordrops 4y ago
        You didn't address a single thing I said, but just appeal to emotion.
        dragontamer 4y ago
        Because people burning to death while being trapped inside is rather terrifying. Regardless of what other car companies are doing. You accuse me of gish galloping. Okay. I'll focus on one thing then. Do you have a response to this point? Ignore everything else I've said.
        colordrops 4y ago
        You change the subject, but I'll address your comment as an example of providing data: https://insideevs.com/news/528123/tesla-fire-versus-gas-car/ https://insideevs.com/news/528123/tesla-fire-versus-gas-car/ The rate of car fires is far higher in gas cars than EVs, including Teslas. I don't understand what this has to do with anything though.
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dragontamer 4y ago

I'm basing this off of Tesla's awful history. Multiple people have burned to death as those silly electronic locks fail and when the car catches on fire. Has there been any recall to fix this issue? No. Multiple people have died as 'Full Self Driving' has collided into walls and trucks. Has there been a recall? No . Multiple safety critical issues have hit this company over and over again, and they do nothing about it. I can say that Tesla will ignore this problem too.

colordrops 4y ago
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- dragontamer 4y ago
  > in comparison to other car companies. That's quite the strawman, isn't it? You're the only one who cares about the problem "compared to others". I for one, am tired of seeing people burn to death inside of Teslas. But maybe that's just me. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/driver-was-behind-wheel-at-time-of-tesla-crash-in-texas-ntsb-says https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/driver-was-behind-wheel-... https://www.oregonlive.com/nation/2019/10/florida-man-died-in-a-burning-tesla-because-its-futuristic-doors-wouldnt-open-lawsuit-alleges.html https://www.oregonlive.com/nation/2019/10/florida-man-died-i... https://www.wfla.com/news/florida/florida-jury-awards-10-5m-in-case-of-teens-killed-in-fiery-tesla-crash/ https://www.wfla.com/news/florida/florida-jury-awards-10-5m-... We all know that the electronic locks fail when the battery explodes in flames. We also know that Tesla cars manual override is rather... difficult. But go on, research the issue on your own if you don't believe me. Try to figure out the manual overload yourself. Seriously, it could save your life, so you really should look for it and train to use it. ---------- BTW: We're up to 50 confirmed Tesla Fire fatalities. https://www.tesla-fire.com/ https://www.tesla-fire.com/ And a LOT of these have the same issue. Car crashes, doors stop working. People don't know how to use the manual override and either burn to death, or break a window to escape. https://bc.ctvnews.ca/b-c-tesla-driver-kicks-out-window-to-escape-car-fire-1.5914147 https://bc.ctvnews.ca/b-c-tesla-driver-kicks-out-window-to-e... There's been no recall, no safety notice, no nothing. This keeps happening over-and-over-and-over again. I don't know what the NHTSA is doing on this matter, but the number of cases continues to rise higher and higher. So yes. When I hear "Tesla has another safety issue", I'm more inclined to believe that its Tesla's fault and they're covering something up. After all, they're obviously covering up this Fire + Door issue and have been for years.
  - colordrops 4y ago
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    - dragontamer 4y ago
      > If Tesla not to be compared with other car companies Because people burning to death while being trapped inside is rather terrifying. Regardless of what other car companies are doing. If you need a "benchmark" to measure how bad that is I don't know what's wrong with you. But personally speaking, its not how I'd want to die, or how anyone else I know should die. My Tesla-loving friends included. At some point, you need to stop comparing Tesla to other companies and start asking yourself: "Why do Tesla doors FAIL and lock their victims inside during a fire? Can this be fixed?"
      - colordrops 4y ago
        You didn't address a single thing I said, but just appeal to emotion.
        dragontamer 4y ago
        Because people burning to death while being trapped inside is rather terrifying. Regardless of what other car companies are doing. You accuse me of gish galloping. Okay. I'll focus on one thing then. Do you have a response to this point? Ignore everything else I've said.
        colordrops 4y ago
        You change the subject, but I'll address your comment as an example of providing data: https://insideevs.com/news/528123/tesla-fire-versus-gas-car/ https://insideevs.com/news/528123/tesla-fire-versus-gas-car/ The rate of car fires is far higher in gas cars than EVs, including Teslas. I don't understand what this has to do with anything though.
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