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The title is pretty bad. Nothing earth shattering there and nothing that is specific to programmers. It's just that often times the programmer gets stuck implem

by tjpick 18y ago

The title is pretty bad. Nothing earth shattering there and nothing that is specific to programmers. It's just that often times the programmer gets stuck implementing it because they have the technical smarts. I've seen similarly bad designs come from most corners of the company and from completely tasteless visual designers. It's not just programmers who commit design crimes. Nevertheless, generally good advice, except the bits about filling your page with "lorem ipsum", and about not using black for the main text. The off-black/off-white stuff looks good when you take an image of the page and stand back 10 feet, but for people like me (ie without perfect eyes) is a complete pain when actually reading it.

kwamenum86 18y ago
What's wrong with using dummy text? How else can you ensure that as the content expands the page will not break?
- tjpick 18y ago
  It's ok, but I find it too "sunny day" to really be meaningful. You end up thinking your site looks awesome, and then when you get real, quirky, half filled in, random content in there the site looks broken anyway. You're better off to get some real content in there first and then design around that.
  - tel 18y ago
    In general there are several different textual elements to consider in a design. If you're waiting on someone to type an essay (or 5 full blog entries) before you've even set up your font grids, then you'll be in trouble. If you're working with specific copy, attention-grabbing copy, then the exact wording of that is on every bit the same level of detail as the rest of the design and it's pretty necessary to have a good rough draft of the wording before you start crafting the appearance. At the end of the day though, I find myself using Lipsum all the time to very good effect.
  - LogicHoleFlaw 18y ago
    The article recommends using Wikipedia articles if you're not happy with lorem ipsum. That is actually a great idea to me.

by tjpick 18y ago

kwamenum86 18y ago

What's wrong with using dummy text? How else can you ensure that as the content expands the page will not break?

tjpick 18y ago
It's ok, but I find it too "sunny day" to really be meaningful. You end up thinking your site looks awesome, and then when you get real, quirky, half filled in, random content in there the site looks broken anyway. You're better off to get some real content in there first and then design around that.
- tel 18y ago
  In general there are several different textual elements to consider in a design. If you're waiting on someone to type an essay (or 5 full blog entries) before you've even set up your font grids, then you'll be in trouble. If you're working with specific copy, attention-grabbing copy, then the exact wording of that is on every bit the same level of detail as the rest of the design and it's pretty necessary to have a good rough draft of the wording before you start crafting the appearance. At the end of the day though, I find myself using Lipsum all the time to very good effect.
- LogicHoleFlaw 18y ago
  The article recommends using Wikipedia articles if you're not happy with lorem ipsum. That is actually a great idea to me.