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I'm Done with Standard Notes: Why I'm Abandoning Standard Notes

28 points by ValentineC 4y ago

moughxyz 4y ago
Here was my reply, but of course a nuanced refutation doesn't get as much attention as an agitative tirade :) There's definitely truth to the fact that our self-hosted setup requires a lot of Docker containers and thus resources, but things like "your notes are not yours anymore" and "proprietary solutions for everything" are very much egregiously exaggerated for effect. A nuanced, honest take wouldn't be homepage worthy, and OP's awareness of this is evident by their excellent headline writing :) https://old.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/10oz4pl/im_done_with_standard_notes_why_im_abandoning/j6id85v/ https://old.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/10oz4pl/im_done... I will say that attempting to experiment with self-hosted economics has always been a dangerous undertaking, but I believe the current state wasn't viable and made it so that avoiding prioritizing self-hosting UX was more economically lucrative than making self-hosting as great as it can be. And the latter is something I'd love to focus on more. Some more thoughts here: https://standardnotes.com/blog/making-self-hosting-easy-for-all https://standardnotes.com/blog/making-self-hosting-easy-for-...
- torstenvl 4y ago
  In the linked reply, it says "SN dev here" — that's you?
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fattybob 4y ago
Can’t blame you - self hyped rather sad application that simply kinda sucks - I think I’ve got a lifetime lot of upgrades or something, every time I try it though I feel it’s the same mess of an application.
Daedren 4y ago
I do agree with many points with the OP. I looked at this, manually updated my phone app and saw myself locked out, just like that. I do really like SN and their large featureset, especially the editor variety, but this sort of thing has happened a few times over the years I've been using it. I'm not really angry because I do like it a lot, it's more of a feeling of disappointment.

28 points by ValentineC 4y ago

Here was my reply, but of course a nuanced refutation doesn't get as much attention as an agitative tirade :) There's definitely truth to the fact that our self-hosted setup requires a lot of Docker containers and thus resources, but things like "your notes are not yours anymore" and "proprietary solutions for everything" are very much egregiously exaggerated for effect. A nuanced, honest take wouldn't be homepage worthy, and OP's awareness of this is evident by their excellent headline writing :) https://old.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/10oz4pl/im_done_with_standard_notes_why_im_abandoning/j6id85v/ https://old.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/10oz4pl/im_done... I will say that attempting to experiment with self-hosted economics has always been a dangerous undertaking, but I believe the current state wasn't viable and made it so that avoiding prioritizing self-hosting UX was more economically lucrative than making self-hosting as great as it can be. And the latter is something I'd love to focus on more. Some more thoughts here: https://standardnotes.com/blog/making-self-hosting-easy-for-all https://standardnotes.com/blog/making-self-hosting-easy-for-...

torstenvl 4y ago
In the linked reply, it says "SN dev here" — that's you?
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fattybob 4y ago

Can’t blame you - self hyped rather sad application that simply kinda sucks - I think I’ve got a lifetime lot of upgrades or something, every time I try it though I feel it’s the same mess of an application.

Daedren 4y ago

I do agree with many points with the OP. I looked at this, manually updated my phone app and saw myself locked out, just like that. I do really like SN and their large featureset, especially the editor variety, but this sort of thing has happened a few times over the years I've been using it. I'm not really angry because I do like it a lot, it's more of a feeling of disappointment.