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Exactly this. ChatGPT cannot answer 90% of the questions I ask it. The reason? Because the information I’m looking for exists after 2021. I have no idea how thi

Exactly this. ChatGPT cannot answer 90% of the questions I ask it. The reason? Because the information I’m looking for exists after 2021. I have no idea how this would ever replace a search engine that has real-time results.

bckr 4y ago
Persistent indexing is just an implementation detail. Models with access to a database are already in existence.
- kissgyorgy 4y ago
  Calling a billion dollar business an "implementation detail" is quite a stretch.
  - Euphorbium 4y ago
    Exercise left for a reader.
    - bckr 4y ago
      Haha, it’s true that it’s a lot of work. But it’s just that: work. We now know that it’s possible with the current class of techniques.
- EGreg 4y ago
  Give it til mid year when they implement chain-of-reasoning. We are very closd to superhuman levels of research.
- ryanSrich 4y ago
  Until that happens, and it works better than Google, I don’t see a path to disruption. For example, I can type “NBA schedule” and Google will give me the exact thing I’m looking for. A chronological list of games, their times, if they’re in progress (with real-time scores if they are, and even possession). I think ChatGPT supporters downplay how important instant real-time results are.
  - philliphaydon 4y ago
    And there is nothing to suggest right now that ChatGPT can’t do any of that. Just because the creators limited the information doesn’t mean it cannot be opened up and be fed information.
rich_sasha 4y ago
In fairness, I'm not sure what changed but frankly Google doesn't answer my questions anymore either. It just shows me random spam websites, number 7 will surprise me. I know your point is about product features not accuracy, but these things may be connected. It might take an AI to sift through the shit we created via SEO. That said, I tried using ChatGPT today as a stack exchange replacement and it was like a smart 7-year old. Sounded super impressive but wasn't actually correct.
- lamontcg 4y ago
  Yeah there's a race between Google becoming totally useless and ML technologies becoming just better enough than it. If Google keeps on lowering the bar enough then someone may be able to disrupt it. Although it isn't going to be ChatGPT, it'll be an ML-indexed and ML-driven search index over the internet.
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bagels 4y ago
That is today's ChatGPT. Next year's AI will be able to be continually retrained with new information, such as information that appears on the web.
- bsaul 4y ago
  Continuously learning chatgpt would probably be absolutely insane indeed. Yet it remains that chatgpt has no notion of « truth » or information quality. Whereas google has built a whole system of ranking reliable source of truth for every possible subject. I’m not sure a language model can reach that goal, but i may completely wrong.. It’s going to be fantastically interesting !

bckr 4y ago

Persistent indexing is just an implementation detail. Models with access to a database are already in existence.

kissgyorgy 4y ago
Calling a billion dollar business an "implementation detail" is quite a stretch.
- Euphorbium 4y ago
  Exercise left for a reader.
  - bckr 4y ago
    Haha, it’s true that it’s a lot of work. But it’s just that: work. We now know that it’s possible with the current class of techniques.
EGreg 4y ago
Give it til mid year when they implement chain-of-reasoning. We are very closd to superhuman levels of research.
ryanSrich 4y ago
Until that happens, and it works better than Google, I don’t see a path to disruption. For example, I can type “NBA schedule” and Google will give me the exact thing I’m looking for. A chronological list of games, their times, if they’re in progress (with real-time scores if they are, and even possession). I think ChatGPT supporters downplay how important instant real-time results are.
- philliphaydon 4y ago
  And there is nothing to suggest right now that ChatGPT can’t do any of that. Just because the creators limited the information doesn’t mean it cannot be opened up and be fed information.

rich_sasha 4y ago

In fairness, I'm not sure what changed but frankly Google doesn't answer my questions anymore either. It just shows me random spam websites, number 7 will surprise me. I know your point is about product features not accuracy, but these things may be connected. It might take an AI to sift through the shit we created via SEO. That said, I tried using ChatGPT today as a stack exchange replacement and it was like a smart 7-year old. Sounded super impressive but wasn't actually correct.

lamontcg 4y ago
Yeah there's a race between Google becoming totally useless and ML technologies becoming just better enough than it. If Google keeps on lowering the bar enough then someone may be able to disrupt it. Although it isn't going to be ChatGPT, it'll be an ML-indexed and ML-driven search index over the internet.

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bagels 4y ago

That is today's ChatGPT. Next year's AI will be able to be continually retrained with new information, such as information that appears on the web.

bsaul 4y ago
Continuously learning chatgpt would probably be absolutely insane indeed. Yet it remains that chatgpt has no notion of « truth » or information quality. Whereas google has built a whole system of ranking reliable source of truth for every possible subject. I’m not sure a language model can reach that goal, but i may completely wrong.. It’s going to be fantastically interesting !