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Performance has improved a lot. I'm on version 28 with native compilation enabled and I just opened a 12599 line yaml file and there is no lag. In the prior ver

Performance has improved a lot. I'm on version 28 with native compilation enabled and I just opened a 12599 line yaml file and there is no lag. In the prior version the file was pretty much uneditable in emacs. There are probably still cases where vim outperforms emacs, but for any reasonably sized file it should be good.

pdimitar 4y ago
Every single time I press M-x my Emacs lags. I use Emacs 29 RC with JIT compilation. Seldom any difference at all. Granted I use a Doom derivative that shows a popup where you see command auto-completion but in 2023 this is absolutely inexcusable, if not laughable.
- jacobsenscott 4y ago
  It is likely the fault of an extension or misconfiguration. It is instant for me, with ivy typeahead/fuzzy match magic. You would need to start uninstalling packages until you find the offender. I don't know if that is easy with something like doom since a ton is stuff is pre-installed.
  - pdimitar 4y ago
    Exactly the problem. I lost all will to tinker with it (and I've done that a lot in the past). If it can't work reasonably well out of the box then it is a failure. I'm already eating down votes in another comment which ironically only cements my decision to move away from Emacs.
    - nequo 4y ago
      >> Granted I use a Doom derivative that shows a popup > If it can't work reasonably well out of the box then it is a failure. It is not out of the box though, is it? It sounds like the code that shows you the popup might not ship with stock Emacs. Do you get the lag if you start Emacs with `emacs -Q`? Do you get it with Doom proper?
      - pdimitar 4y ago
        Switching Emacs distro sounds like doing a favor to a friend that kept stealing my money but I'll grant you that yes, I'm not using stock Doom and that might be the problem. Can't promise I'll try again ever. I tinkered a good amount and lost faith. Nothing should need that much time and effort spent to have basic stuff working acceptably.
        nequo 4y ago
        That's fair. The most important thing is that you get your work done.
        pdimitar 4y ago
        Yep. NeoVim + LunarVim gives me that (as long as I don't update it often, lol, it has similar problems -- people over-excited to pimp it forever and ever). I think people easily lose perspective. It's OK to love what you do and play with it but people swing too far in that direction and forget that others actually use their stuff and need to get work done with it.

pdimitar 4y ago

Every single time I press M-x my Emacs lags. I use Emacs 29 RC with JIT compilation. Seldom any difference at all. Granted I use a Doom derivative that shows a popup where you see command auto-completion but in 2023 this is absolutely inexcusable, if not laughable.

jacobsenscott 4y ago
It is likely the fault of an extension or misconfiguration. It is instant for me, with ivy typeahead/fuzzy match magic. You would need to start uninstalling packages until you find the offender. I don't know if that is easy with something like doom since a ton is stuff is pre-installed.
- pdimitar 4y ago
  Exactly the problem. I lost all will to tinker with it (and I've done that a lot in the past). If it can't work reasonably well out of the box then it is a failure. I'm already eating down votes in another comment which ironically only cements my decision to move away from Emacs.
  - nequo 4y ago
    >> Granted I use a Doom derivative that shows a popup > If it can't work reasonably well out of the box then it is a failure. It is not out of the box though, is it? It sounds like the code that shows you the popup might not ship with stock Emacs. Do you get the lag if you start Emacs with `emacs -Q`? Do you get it with Doom proper?
    - pdimitar 4y ago
      Switching Emacs distro sounds like doing a favor to a friend that kept stealing my money but I'll grant you that yes, I'm not using stock Doom and that might be the problem. Can't promise I'll try again ever. I tinkered a good amount and lost faith. Nothing should need that much time and effort spent to have basic stuff working acceptably.
      - nequo 4y ago
        That's fair. The most important thing is that you get your work done.
        pdimitar 4y ago
        Yep. NeoVim + LunarVim gives me that (as long as I don't update it often, lol, it has similar problems -- people over-excited to pimp it forever and ever). I think people easily lose perspective. It's OK to love what you do and play with it but people swing too far in that direction and forget that others actually use their stuff and need to get work done with it.