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Because people deserve a livable wage. If it is a full time job, it needs to be paid good enough to eat, live and have shelter. Everything else is a hobby (and
by oaiey 4y ago
Because people deserve a livable wage. If it is a full time job, it needs to be paid good enough to eat, live and have shelter. Everything else is a hobby (and considering another comment, that is even true for some).
It is that simple. Humans are not Resources.
- lotsofpulp 4y agoIt can be useful to model the same thing with different viewpoints for different purposes. For the purposes of ensuring a healthy, long term society, humans are not only resources. For the purposes of properly allocating a society’s resources (which is also in the interest of a healthy, long term society), humans’ labor is a resource, which can be shortened to humans as resources.
- jvmfjvfjvf 4y agoWhy should a publishing company be forced to pay them a living wage in the most expensive city in America?
- robinsoncrus0e 4y agoBecause they require them to live in the most expensive city in America?
- dcow 4y agoWho does this?
- robinsoncrus0e 4y agoHarper Collins and the rest of the big five require editorial/marketing/publicity assistant positions to be at least hybrid in Manhattan
- dcow 4y agoBut you aren’t forced to live in Manhattan. And I thought we were talking about book cover artists?
- robinsoncrus0e 4y ago> But you aren’t forced to live in Manhattan. $45k is not a livable wage anywhere within an hour commute of Manhattan > And I thought we were talking about book cover artists? "editors, marketing assistants, publicists, sales associates, designers, and contract assistants"
- dcow 4y agoIf it’s not livable then how do people do it, and for less?
- yellowapple 4y agoUnsustainably. I briefly lived in SF, wherein the dynamic was similar. Most of us were a paycheck (or less!) away from homelessness. It's "doable" if you're okay with having near-zero room for savings, or covering unexpected expenses, or what have you.
- mzd348 4y ago> $45k is not a livable wage anywhere within an hour commute of Manhattan I think $45k comes out to a take-home of about $2800 per month. I see ads on craigslist for 2-bedroom apartments in Brooklyn in the 2000-3000 range, and 3-bedroom apartments also in Brooklyn in the 3000-4000 range, either of those seem reasonable with a $2800 take-home. Of course it means having roommates.
- valarauko 4y agoYou don't even necessarily need roommates - I make about this much, and live in a 1 bedroom all to myself in an Outer Borough. Midtown is a 30-minute commute.
- toyg 4y agoThey are not forced, there is no law. But let's reframe the question: "why should a publishing company willingly starve their competent and talented staff, which they force to live in the most expensive city in America?" How you answer that question will be telling.
- ghaff 4y agoSo, according to the article, the minimum salary is $45K. Yes it's Manhattan--though you don't need to live in Manhattan to work there. However, I'm not sure I'd characterize a salary which is approaching median US income as "willingly starving."
- yellowapple 4y agoPeople deserve to eat, live, and have shelter - regardless of their wage. The answer here is to provide for that independently of wages.
- oaiey 4y agoAt that point work becomes a hobby (or a psychologic need) but yes, basic income is awesome.