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This can go wrong in either direction. If you brush your teeth and have milk shortly after, the fluoride binds to the calcium in milk and goes to your belly ins
by hawk_ 4y ago
This can go wrong in either direction. If you brush your teeth and have milk shortly after, the fluoride binds to the calcium in milk and goes to your belly instead of staying with your teeth protecting them. On the other hand if you have orange juice or similar (acidic) and then brush your teeth, say bye to your tooth enamel.
- spoiler 4y agoWhy is there no winning in this situation?! I have never realised something as simple as brushing teeth can be so nuanced lol
- coldpie 4y agoIMO teeth are the worst part of the human body. Hard to take care of, will inevitably fail, not replaceable, massively painful for even minor injuries. Evolution really screwed the pooch on teeth.
- tete 4y agoSpines seem to be similar in that regard. Huge "fuckup" (bound to fail badly) in many ways, but freed hands. Feels like engineering: It's all trade-offs.
- hawk_ 4y agoOur diet is nothing like what our teeth evolved for. For example for most people, cutting down the amount of sugars (down to levels similar to our prehistoric ancestors) they consume can go a long way in protecting dental health (and general health for that matter)
- HPsquared 4y agoTeeth are the canary in the coal mine. "The canary is the worst part of the coal mine, it can hardly handle anything!"
- bee_rider 4y agoSomewhere evolution is saying “well I gave you four perfectly decent extra molars that you insist on ripping out, if you kept those your teeth would be mostly fine for however long your are supposed to live. Mid 50’s?”
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- moffkalast 4y agoSharks really got the good teeth genes.
- tete 4y agoWould be fun too have re-growing teeth, probably not so fun to swallow them in those sizes so frequently.
- mensetmanusman 4y agoTeeth are amazing. One of the areas where human crystal formation happens. Our modern diets are horrible for teeth. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t4RgBZlKlJI https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t4RgBZlKlJI Evolution expects us to grind away about a millimeter of our teeth while we are young by eating rougher things to make way for wisdom teeth, for example. For healthy teeth, you should be very hydrated. If your mouth isn’t watering, you might not be hydrated enough.
- tete 4y agoHaven't watched the video, but: > One of the areas where human crystal formation happens Especially one of the areas where you want crystals to form. Unlike in your urinary and bladders. ;)
- D-Coder 4y agoWell, teeth perform perhaps the most difficult task of the entire body. Take entirely external substances of all kinds of textures and densities and contaminants, crush all that to tiny particles, try not to get worn down too far in the process...
- satvikpendem 4y agoPeople in the past had better teeth than us, it's the sugar these days that cause so many dental problems. If you ate like those in the past, you similarly will have good teeth.
- psychphysic 4y agoIt's not nuanced. The evidence is just lacking, people are just using judgement to advise on something that we can't detect one way or another with research. When it comes to dental care it's not even clear, based on research (Cochrane review in 2019) it flossing makes any difference let alone a clinically useful difference. The current advice is just based on reasoning that either you brush first or wait a hour after eating due to the abrasive action of brushing.
- spoiler 4y agoRegarding flossing, at least in my case, it helps with my gum disease. If I don't floss for a while my gums start to bleed. Although, I use a water floss instead of a regular rope floss
- wingworks 4y agoYeah, flossing is a good idea if you don't want to get gum disease. Also a good idea to learn to floss correctly, not just a quick "in and out". (also good idea so you don't get cavities on the edges of your teeth.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WviE5aa5Ha0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WviE5aa5Ha0 (how to floss)
- moffkalast 4y agoIt's not clear because it IS nuanced, and it doesn't have the same effect on everyone equally. Two people using the exact same dental routine can have vastly different results from it.
- psychphysic 4y agoI'll take the Cochrane opinion that evidence is lacking due to low quality small sample short follow up studies in those with poor dental hygiene. Over the random internet randos views. But thanks none the less!
- ornornor 4y agoI’m glad ifnflossing helps fights cavity but the main reason I do it is because it’s so gross not to. When you don’t floss you basically accept to keep bits of rotten food between your teeth for days. If you’re unconvinced, don’t floss for a week and then do, see what comes out. And don’t smell it. I warned you.
- moneywoes 4y agoI guess a diet without those foods is the best solution Didn’t people not brush at all in the past but still had perfect teeth?
- soiler 4y agoI'm pretty sure prehistoric people did have primitive tooth care, didn't eat junk food and high-sugar diets, and still had nasty teeth.
- Firther 4y agoGenes, climate, and types of local foods play a role too, but widespread adoption of agriculture made diets rich in carbs and starchy foods possible, which isn't great for dental health, and the somewhat recent trend (last 200~ years) of highly processed foods that are softer and easier to chew means there's less mechanisms to deal with tooth overcrowding. This has been observed in children from hunter gatherer societies, raised on modern diets, having worse dental hygiene than their parents.
- kgc 4y agoThey had two sets of teeth and they were perfect for the average life expectancy of around 35.
- abdullahkhalids 4y ago> Teeth-cleaning twigs have long been used throughout human history.[2] As long ago as 3000 B.C., the ancient Egyptians constructed crude toothbrushes from twigs and leaves to clean their teeth. Similarly, other cultures such as the Greeks, Romans, Arabs and Indians also cleaned their teeth with twigs. Some would fray one end of the twig so that it could penetrate between the teeth more effectively. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tooth_brushing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tooth_brushing
- godelski 4y ago> I have never realised something as simple as brushing teeth can be so nuanced lol I feel like replacing "brushing teeth" with literally anything and your sentence is also correct and a good way to think. Especially the things we think are easy. There's a reason it took us thousands of years to do certain things.
- badpun 4y ago> On the other hand if you have orange juice or similar (acidic) and then brush your teeth, say bye to your tooth enamel. How long would you recommend to wait? Or perhaps a good rinsing of teeth before brushing would be enough?
- hawk_ 4y agoAcid loosens the enamel, so careful with anything like good rinsing or brushing right after consuming acidic items. Just drink some water (optional light rinse) and wait around 30 minutes to brush. * Disclaimer: I am not a dentist, you should find a good one and talk to them for real advice.
- CabSauce 4y agoDon't brush before or after breakfast. Got it! Thanks!
- mensetmanusman 4y agoIf you follow all health advice, you realize the proper response is to just die: it’s too complicated.
- FlyingSnake 4y ago> to just die But before brushing or after brushing??!!
- Firmwarrior 4y agoI've only been brushing my teeth before bed for like 6 years at this point, and flossing once a week or so. I don't know if it's the fluoride alcohol mouth wash I use or just dumb luck, but I haven't gotten any cavities So I think that given this rigorous scientific data, you can safely avoid brushing for the most part
- jonaustin 4y agofwiw, I have pretty bad teeth (~10K for crowns etc a few years ago). And I switched to only brushing with an electric toothbrush before bed, and don't really floss and think I've only had one small cavity since then and the hygienist said my teeth looked quite good in general. Worth noting that I have a good diet and rarely eat sugar beyond yogurt.
- CabSauce 4y agoIt's complicated. There's definitely a genetic component to having hard teeth.
- danenania 4y agoA lot of it is diet too. Not eating or drinking sugary things gives you much more room for error. Of course you still need to brush and floss, but in my experience sugar + rigorous cleaning can still leave you with cavities whereas no sugar + lax cleaning you're probably fine. No sugar + rigorous cleaning and you might never need a dentist again. It took me way too long to understand this.
- tonnydourado 4y agoI always drink coffee, which is acidic (I think) with milk, for breakfast, so I guess I should just give up on teeth?
- tromp 4y agoI try to brush before eating and drinking, but on the rare occasions I end up brushing afterwards, I wait the better part of an hour so that the acids are well enough diluted to cause trouble.
- satvikpendem 4y agoDid you know that after brushing with toothpaste you're supposed to just...let the foam hang around in your mouth without rinsing it out for 30 minutes? I didn't until recently, and now that I do, I'm still not gonna walk around with toothpaste foam in my mouth.
- 8ytecoder 4y agoThere's a particular prescription strength toothpaste I use when I get sensitive teeth. I keep it specifically for post-dinner brushing and it's easier to do this at that time.
- valarauko 4y agoHow much foam do you end up with? I usually don't rinse out the toothpaste after, but I don't end up with a foaming mouth after. I use about a pea size amount (as recommended on the packaging) and it's not super sudsy when I'm finished. Wipe my face and done.
- satvikpendem 4y agoNot too much but it just feels disgusting to me to keep all of the food bits still suspended in the foam in my mouth.
- valarauko 4y agoI'm confused - what food bits? Do you have detectable food bits left over after brushing or is it an impression that there must be food still left over? At least for me, I rinse out my mouth before I brush, so I don't expect to have detectable gunk left over. I also use a tongue scraper after, so I'm usually feeling pretty clean when I'm done.
- satvikpendem 4y agoWell both, stuff between the teeth that the brush doesn't get (I guess that's why you'd floss after brushing, but also with foam in your mouth?), and also just food microparticles that would go away when rinsing after brushing generally.
- rojobuffalo 4y agoHow about mouthwash first thing in the morning to nuke the bacteria without coating your mouth in fluoride?
- LouisSayers 4y agoDentists I've been to have said not to use mouthwash - it kills good bacteria too.
- pcthrowaway 4y agoIt's easy to get toothpaste without fluoride
- fxtentacle 4y agobut what's the point? toothpaste is mostly a fluoride delivery mechanism.
- azinman2 4y agoYou want the fluoride to remineralize your enamel.
- wingworks 4y agoYep. Thats why they recommended to wait about 30mins after brushing before you eat. Also at least 30 mins after brushing before eating. Ideally don't graze eat throughout the day. Highly recommend checking out the TeethTalk YouTube, she's a Dental Hygienist and covers allot of dental topics, and it's free. idk where your from, but dentists here are crazy expensive. https://www.youtube.com/@TeethTalk https://www.youtube.com/@TeethTalk