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I don't like wearing big layers of clothing. I like being in a very light t-shirt. I'm happy to pay the extra cost to heat the room I'm in with a space heater

by mabbo 4y ago

I don't like wearing big layers of clothing. I like being in a very light t-shirt. I'm happy to pay the extra cost to heat the room I'm in with a space heater in the winter time.

coldpie 4y ago
I'm not trying to change your mind, just offer my perspective. I felt the same way. But after a couple of months of just putting up with it, I found I got used to it, and it saves some money & spends less fuel. Now I wear sweaters around the house all the time and it doesn't bother me anymore.
- bumby 4y ago
  You're right and I've done the same. But changing human behavior is enormously difficult, especially when it relies strictly on individual decisions. Just look at how many people rationally know what to do to get healthier, yet are unable to do so. We need to stop pretending humans are computers that just need better information to make better decisions. We're emotional beings even more than we are rational ones.
armchairhacker 4y ago
me too, also sometimes i can’t seem to heat up in layers. So I drink hot tea instead
beerandt 4y ago
I'm the same way, but wool really is an awesome fabric for clothes wrt to temp regulation. My favorite t-shirt is now a lightweight filson 100% wool shirt that is just as comfortable by itself at 80 deg as it is under a button up shirt at 30 deg. And doesn't get cold when wet like cotton does. It really does fit the "life changing" topic if you've never tried it.
- ornornor 4y ago
  It’s so itchy though.
  - seadan83 4y ago
    Pre-Merino, wool was quite itchy. I wonder if you are thinking of "old" wool. Modern merino is some very soft stuff. > Merino wool is able to ditch the itch thanks to its fiber's smaller diameter, or being “finer”. These fibers are more flexible and softly bend when pressed against the skin and, therefore, don't itch like other wool. https://www.smartwool.com/discover/why-merino-wool/merino-wool-101.html https://www.smartwool.com/discover/why-merino-wool/merino-wo...
    - ornornor 4y ago
      Could be. Wool is too cruel for my taste anyway so I abstain from it.
      - seadan83 4y ago
        No could be about it. Merino wool is not itchy. There are other wools like possum wool with similar properties that are less ambiguous in terms of ethics. Merino can be ethically sourced. If usage of animal products is a concern, that seems hardly relevent to a question of the feel of the material. I applaud the concern, just find the "could be" to be glib and/or ignorant
        rtikulit 4y ago
        Merino is just as itchy to me as any other wool, I can't wear any of it touching my skin. Drives me nuts.
- Wistar 4y ago
  I just went and bought a Filson 210G Merino wool T. Thanks! I need this. https://www.filson.com/tops/210g-merino-wool-short-sleeve-crewneck.html https://www.filson.com/tops/210g-merino-wool-short-sleeve-cr...
dfxm12 4y ago
it's a big reduction in oil and wood consumption for home heat I'm happy to pay the extra cost As an aside, we've got the externalities of climate change all wrong. Oil is a non renewable resource. We can't just give the planet a bunch of money and have it produce more oil for us to burn when we're uncomfortable. This cost is not really borne by you; it'll be borne by future generations.
- melenaboija 4y ago
  I would assume the poster already knows it. Is a matter of wanting something and do it because I can. It goes against common sense but is human nature.
  - notyourwork 4y ago
    Which is precisely why government intervention is required to address this problem. Individuals will make decisions that are short sighted, self-centered and potentially not in the best interest of the planet. I don't fault them for it, I'm guilty of it in some situations.
    - bumby 4y ago
      It's a hard balancing effort. On one hand, humans can't be counted on to be rational actors, especially in terms of long-term benefit. On the other hand, the system is so complex it may not be able to be managed well at the large government level.
  - 988747 4y ago
    No, it actually makes sense: burn all the oil now, to keep yourself warm in winter, and the future generations will be kept warm by the fact that climate change raises temperatures, so there are no winters anymore :-D
- mrshadowgoose 4y ago
  A large part of the population is like this. Whining at and shaming them is not going to get the result you want. If you care about climate change, you should be advocating for completely green electricity generation, and carbon-neutral synthetic fuels. That would completely solve the fundamental problem. Our society is fundamentally based on energy, and people like to use energy towards things that give them comfort. Taking away comfort is going to be a "nope" for most people.
eadmund 4y ago
I like going outside. I must go outside to walk my dog, get my mail and go to church — all of which are outside. I like shopping for groceries and eating out, which means that I must move from my car to the building. Given that I am going to be outdoors, it sure as heck makes sense to dress for the season and the weather. Plus, y’know, winter clothes are the best clothes. Tweeds, woolens, gloves, coats, scarves, hats: all these are great! I was amazed to find out that even in this air conditioned age we spend far more heating buildings than air conditioning them (four times as much, according to the first Google hit I just found). That means that it makes a lot more sense to dress warmly in the winter than lightly in the summer.
gambiting 4y ago
Yeah so I was like that, until the energy prices absolutely exploded here in UK. I realized that if we go like this we'll pay £600/month just in energy costs, and that's as much as our mortgage payment - and frankly that's insane. I turned our thermostat down, grumbled and put on a jumper and wooly trousers - that alone literally halved our bill to £300/month - still insane(considering last year we were paying £100/month even in winter with heating being on pretty much all the time), but managable.
h2odragon 4y ago
I sweat a lot (medical problems), and have no body fat; so keeping warm is a real challenge. I can't wear much clothing. "radiant IR" (red glowing elements) type heaters are wonderful tools for heating the body instead of the air.
mrguyorama 4y ago
You can still do this efficiently, for example my house thermostat is set to 65ish and I use a tiny space heater at half power (700ish watts) to have a small but nice warm corner without breaking the bank, probably.
phyzome 4y ago
I like eating chocolate and sleeping all day, but I also have responsibilities. One of my responsibilities is to not be wasteful. So I put on a sweater. (But if you've got some kind of super-insulated house, then never mind.)
triceratops 4y ago
That's still better than keeping the whole house at 75F all winter.
therealdrag0 4y ago
For me the game changer was flannel. I never knew it was different than plaid until this year. Turns out it’s sufficiently warm and way more comfortable than heavier layers like hoodies because of how light it is.

by mabbo 4y ago

I don't like wearing big layers of clothing. I like being in a very light t-shirt. I'm happy to pay the extra cost to heat the room I'm in with a space heater in the winter time.

coldpie 4y ago

I'm not trying to change your mind, just offer my perspective. I felt the same way. But after a couple of months of just putting up with it, I found I got used to it, and it saves some money & spends less fuel. Now I wear sweaters around the house all the time and it doesn't bother me anymore.

bumby 4y ago
You're right and I've done the same. But changing human behavior is enormously difficult, especially when it relies strictly on individual decisions. Just look at how many people rationally know what to do to get healthier, yet are unable to do so. We need to stop pretending humans are computers that just need better information to make better decisions. We're emotional beings even more than we are rational ones.

armchairhacker 4y ago

me too, also sometimes i can’t seem to heat up in layers. So I drink hot tea instead

beerandt 4y ago

I'm the same way, but wool really is an awesome fabric for clothes wrt to temp regulation. My favorite t-shirt is now a lightweight filson 100% wool shirt that is just as comfortable by itself at 80 deg as it is under a button up shirt at 30 deg. And doesn't get cold when wet like cotton does. It really does fit the "life changing" topic if you've never tried it.

ornornor 4y ago
It’s so itchy though.
- seadan83 4y ago
  Pre-Merino, wool was quite itchy. I wonder if you are thinking of "old" wool. Modern merino is some very soft stuff. > Merino wool is able to ditch the itch thanks to its fiber's smaller diameter, or being “finer”. These fibers are more flexible and softly bend when pressed against the skin and, therefore, don't itch like other wool. https://www.smartwool.com/discover/why-merino-wool/merino-wool-101.html https://www.smartwool.com/discover/why-merino-wool/merino-wo...
  - ornornor 4y ago
    Could be. Wool is too cruel for my taste anyway so I abstain from it.
    - seadan83 4y ago
      No could be about it. Merino wool is not itchy. There are other wools like possum wool with similar properties that are less ambiguous in terms of ethics. Merino can be ethically sourced. If usage of animal products is a concern, that seems hardly relevent to a question of the feel of the material. I applaud the concern, just find the "could be" to be glib and/or ignorant
      - rtikulit 4y ago
        Merino is just as itchy to me as any other wool, I can't wear any of it touching my skin. Drives me nuts.
Wistar 4y ago
I just went and bought a Filson 210G Merino wool T. Thanks! I need this. https://www.filson.com/tops/210g-merino-wool-short-sleeve-crewneck.html https://www.filson.com/tops/210g-merino-wool-short-sleeve-cr...

dfxm12 4y ago

it's a big reduction in oil and wood consumption for home heat I'm happy to pay the extra cost As an aside, we've got the externalities of climate change all wrong. Oil is a non renewable resource. We can't just give the planet a bunch of money and have it produce more oil for us to burn when we're uncomfortable. This cost is not really borne by you; it'll be borne by future generations.

melenaboija 4y ago
I would assume the poster already knows it. Is a matter of wanting something and do it because I can. It goes against common sense but is human nature.
- notyourwork 4y ago
  Which is precisely why government intervention is required to address this problem. Individuals will make decisions that are short sighted, self-centered and potentially not in the best interest of the planet. I don't fault them for it, I'm guilty of it in some situations.
  - bumby 4y ago
    It's a hard balancing effort. On one hand, humans can't be counted on to be rational actors, especially in terms of long-term benefit. On the other hand, the system is so complex it may not be able to be managed well at the large government level.
- 988747 4y ago
  No, it actually makes sense: burn all the oil now, to keep yourself warm in winter, and the future generations will be kept warm by the fact that climate change raises temperatures, so there are no winters anymore :-D
mrshadowgoose 4y ago
A large part of the population is like this. Whining at and shaming them is not going to get the result you want. If you care about climate change, you should be advocating for completely green electricity generation, and carbon-neutral synthetic fuels. That would completely solve the fundamental problem. Our society is fundamentally based on energy, and people like to use energy towards things that give them comfort. Taking away comfort is going to be a "nope" for most people.

eadmund 4y ago

I like going outside. I must go outside to walk my dog, get my mail and go to church — all of which are outside. I like shopping for groceries and eating out, which means that I must move from my car to the building. Given that I am going to be outdoors, it sure as heck makes sense to dress for the season and the weather. Plus, y’know, winter clothes are the best clothes. Tweeds, woolens, gloves, coats, scarves, hats: all these are great! I was amazed to find out that even in this air conditioned age we spend far more heating buildings than air conditioning them (four times as much, according to the first Google hit I just found). That means that it makes a lot more sense to dress warmly in the winter than lightly in the summer.

gambiting 4y ago

Yeah so I was like that, until the energy prices absolutely exploded here in UK. I realized that if we go like this we'll pay £600/month just in energy costs, and that's as much as our mortgage payment - and frankly that's insane. I turned our thermostat down, grumbled and put on a jumper and wooly trousers - that alone literally halved our bill to £300/month - still insane(considering last year we were paying £100/month even in winter with heating being on pretty much all the time), but managable.

h2odragon 4y ago

I sweat a lot (medical problems), and have no body fat; so keeping warm is a real challenge. I can't wear much clothing. "radiant IR" (red glowing elements) type heaters are wonderful tools for heating the body instead of the air.

mrguyorama 4y ago

You can still do this efficiently, for example my house thermostat is set to 65ish and I use a tiny space heater at half power (700ish watts) to have a small but nice warm corner without breaking the bank, probably.

phyzome 4y ago

I like eating chocolate and sleeping all day, but I also have responsibilities. One of my responsibilities is to not be wasteful. So I put on a sweater. (But if you've got some kind of super-insulated house, then never mind.)

triceratops 4y ago

That's still better than keeping the whole house at 75F all winter.

therealdrag0 4y ago

For me the game changer was flannel. I never knew it was different than plaid until this year. Turns out it’s sufficiently warm and way more comfortable than heavier layers like hoodies because of how light it is.