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India is a good growth story, their going to benefit from the west's realignment away from Chinese manufacturing.

spaceman_2020 4y ago
Social strife and political gridlock will ensure that the results remain subpar. The rhetoric in India over the last decade has successfully turned two communities (Hindus, Muslims) against each other to the point where public calls for violence and economic boycott are an everyday occurrence. Hard to thrive in that environment
- SanjayMehta 4y ago
  There is no social strife in India. There's just propaganda, amplified by mostly Western media. There are 1.3 billion people here. There are fewer incidents than what we see coming out of Portland OR alone. Or France and Sweden in December end. The problem is that the current government does not listen to the West any more. Pfizer etc were shown the door. Russian gas imports have increased massively since April 2022. There's an election coming up and the current government is likely to continue. Hence the coordinated attacks by the BBC and this short-seller.
  - drumhead 4y ago
    There's a lot of social strife. We've seen how the other religions are being persecuted. Caste based issues still cause friction. Then there's regional seperatism, rich v poor. There's a lot more cause for social problems in India by far then there is in China. You're being disingenous if you say there arent. If you think that the current govenrment doesnt listen to the West then you dont really understand the balance of economic power in the world. Virtually all of the growth that India as achieved in the last 20 years comes from selling to the West. If we shut you down like we did with Russia, how long do you think your economy would last. India is only as big as the UK or France in economic terms, they have a good growth story, but dont think you're in anyway big enough to cause the west any problems or big enough to ignore what they want.
    - lakomen 4y ago
      > If we shut you down like we did with Russia The self-entitled arrogance
    - SanjayMehta 4y ago
      In 1998, we were under sanctions. Look it up. We're much stronger now, economically and otherwise. If attempted, see how it accelerates de-dollarisation. R5 has already been announced. The moment OPEC switches away from the dollar, the US economy is done for.
  - beecafe 4y ago
    Spoken as a true Brahmin and Hindutva.
    - SanjayMehta 4y ago
      See my surname, learn what it means.
  - sasattack 4y ago
    > There is no social strife in India. Just Brahman things
- rhaway84773 4y ago
  There is no political gridlock. In fact, the political problem in India is that a single party is winning extremely big every time. Also, how is the social strife actually reflecting itself? The U.S. has a homicide rate that is more than double that of India. That indicates that the U.S. has far more social strife than India. This is an excellent article https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/06/world/asia/india-region-muslim-hindu-strife.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/06/world/asia/india-region-m... that talks about how India’s “social strife” in your terms has impacted its relationships with its neighbors. It’s useful, because (1) it has no data, which is quite typical of such articles, and (2) it uses the claim of social strife to predict a specific result. Worsening relationships with neighbors. So we can test the results. And turns out, little more than a year later, India’s relationships with its neighbors (outside Pakistan, for obvious reasons), has never been better. India, as an extremely young, diverse, and massive democracy has a lot of issues. Its very hard to see in actual numbers and data that those issues, including “social strife” have actually worsened over the past few years, beyond the impact of the pandemic.
  - spaceman_2020 4y ago
    I can post a rebuttal, but I want to ask: do you think its healthy for the long-term future of any country if the leading political party does not even have a token MP from the largest minority? Do you think there can be a progressive future if nearly 1/5th of the population is not even invited for a dialog, let alone given a seat at the table? Objectively speaking, regardless of your political leanings or religious views, I can’t see how leaving out 1/5th of your people will help everyone progress.
    - ReptileMan 4y ago
      South Africa managed the country economy well during the Apartheid ... Spain had economic miracle under Franco. Israel is chugging along just fine - even with its extremely complicated relationships with Israeli arabs. China is also a nice place to live if you are not Uygur ... Oppression and economic prosperity are not mutually exclusive.
known 4y ago
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spaceman_2020 4y ago

Social strife and political gridlock will ensure that the results remain subpar. The rhetoric in India over the last decade has successfully turned two communities (Hindus, Muslims) against each other to the point where public calls for violence and economic boycott are an everyday occurrence. Hard to thrive in that environment

SanjayMehta 4y ago
There is no social strife in India. There's just propaganda, amplified by mostly Western media. There are 1.3 billion people here. There are fewer incidents than what we see coming out of Portland OR alone. Or France and Sweden in December end. The problem is that the current government does not listen to the West any more. Pfizer etc were shown the door. Russian gas imports have increased massively since April 2022. There's an election coming up and the current government is likely to continue. Hence the coordinated attacks by the BBC and this short-seller.
- drumhead 4y ago
  There's a lot of social strife. We've seen how the other religions are being persecuted. Caste based issues still cause friction. Then there's regional seperatism, rich v poor. There's a lot more cause for social problems in India by far then there is in China. You're being disingenous if you say there arent. If you think that the current govenrment doesnt listen to the West then you dont really understand the balance of economic power in the world. Virtually all of the growth that India as achieved in the last 20 years comes from selling to the West. If we shut you down like we did with Russia, how long do you think your economy would last. India is only as big as the UK or France in economic terms, they have a good growth story, but dont think you're in anyway big enough to cause the west any problems or big enough to ignore what they want.
  - lakomen 4y ago
    > If we shut you down like we did with Russia The self-entitled arrogance
  - SanjayMehta 4y ago
    In 1998, we were under sanctions. Look it up. We're much stronger now, economically and otherwise. If attempted, see how it accelerates de-dollarisation. R5 has already been announced. The moment OPEC switches away from the dollar, the US economy is done for.
- beecafe 4y ago
  Spoken as a true Brahmin and Hindutva.
  - SanjayMehta 4y ago
    See my surname, learn what it means.
- sasattack 4y ago
  > There is no social strife in India. Just Brahman things
rhaway84773 4y ago
There is no political gridlock. In fact, the political problem in India is that a single party is winning extremely big every time. Also, how is the social strife actually reflecting itself? The U.S. has a homicide rate that is more than double that of India. That indicates that the U.S. has far more social strife than India. This is an excellent article https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/06/world/asia/india-region-muslim-hindu-strife.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/06/world/asia/india-region-m... that talks about how India’s “social strife” in your terms has impacted its relationships with its neighbors. It’s useful, because (1) it has no data, which is quite typical of such articles, and (2) it uses the claim of social strife to predict a specific result. Worsening relationships with neighbors. So we can test the results. And turns out, little more than a year later, India’s relationships with its neighbors (outside Pakistan, for obvious reasons), has never been better. India, as an extremely young, diverse, and massive democracy has a lot of issues. Its very hard to see in actual numbers and data that those issues, including “social strife” have actually worsened over the past few years, beyond the impact of the pandemic.
- spaceman_2020 4y ago
  I can post a rebuttal, but I want to ask: do you think its healthy for the long-term future of any country if the leading political party does not even have a token MP from the largest minority? Do you think there can be a progressive future if nearly 1/5th of the population is not even invited for a dialog, let alone given a seat at the table? Objectively speaking, regardless of your political leanings or religious views, I can’t see how leaving out 1/5th of your people will help everyone progress.
  - ReptileMan 4y ago
    South Africa managed the country economy well during the Apartheid ... Spain had economic miracle under Franco. Israel is chugging along just fine - even with its extremely complicated relationships with Israeli arabs. China is also a nice place to live if you are not Uygur ... Oppression and economic prosperity are not mutually exclusive.

known 4y ago

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