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For context, Spain is also very unfriendly to ridesharing services like Uber AFAIK.

• lm28469 4y ago
  Most of western europe actually, but it's not so much about XYZ services but more about saying your employees aren't employees but contractors so you can skip taxes and other annoying things like sick leaves, unemployment benefits, &c.
  • MomoXenosaga 4y ago
    Yes but Uber is a Trojan horse for importing American style capitalism. The tide is slowly turning for neoliberalism.
    • downvoteme1 4y ago
      How was the cab experience in general in Spain before the influx of Uber and other tide sharing services. Was it like the you could fail a can and it would take you where you wanted to go for a reasonable fare or would cabbie in general cancel rides, ask for more fare than the allowable maximum etc.
      • dasv 4y ago
        It was pretty good, most taxi drivers were self employed but associated to a guild that you could call to request a ride. The prices were set by law and there are enough taxis that flagging down one near a city center was pretty quick, and there are established taxi stops where there is always a queue of taxis waiting. Now there are taxi apps but if you are traveling it's a bit of a mess because they are usually only city wide and you need to figure out which one to download. In fact, it is usually cheaper to take a taxi instead of Uber or Cabify if there is the slightest amount of demand pricing in action. The Cabify app also is able to request rides from taxis alongside their own service, but I suspect this is for regulatory compliance. In my opinion, the success of ridesharing apps in Spain is due to knowing upfront how much the trip is going to cost (handy outside your hometown, some less honest taxi drivers would take the, ahem, touristic route, anyway taxi apps offer upfront price now as well) and clean vehicles with well dressed drivers that defer to the passenger. The rude, sweaty taxi driver chain smoking and blasting right wing radio stereotype is still very prevalent in the Spanish collective memory...
• jmorenoamor 4y ago
  Not the services themselves but their job model. JustEst is pretty popular, has a somewhat nice model and does not have problems with the laws. Glovo is trying to install a job model that does not fit our view of what the relation on employer and employee should be, and because of that has been fined several times. The case for Uber or Cabify is a bit different. There is a well established Taxi guild which will fight to keep others from taking part of their business, and in that case, each region makes their own decissions and regulations, not the central government.
• sschueller 4y ago
  I love how we now label breaking a countries laws as it being "unfriendly". /s
  • spaceman_2020 4y ago
    those damn workers rights and labor laws getting in the way of creating shareholder value once again!
• spaceman_2020 4y ago
  In my country, Uber promised drivers sky high wages, offered cheap credit, and encouraged them to buy cars on loan and drive for Uber full time. Of course, the income started going down once the incentives were removed. Drivers could not pay their loans and got their vehicles repossessed. Sit in a Uber in my city and you’ll not hear a single driver say anything good about Uber. Sure, I know that drivers should have known what they were doing, but if your business model depends on exploiting desperate, poorly educated workers by dangling shiny golden carrots (all with a slick presentation and weapons grade persuasion), then maybe your business can f itself.
• officialchicken 4y ago
  That's because of the opposition by the taxi unions.
• wkat4242 4y ago
  Uber yes but the local service Cabify is very popular