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Also said by Bill Gates https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018/09/africas-rapid-population-growth-puts-poverty-progress-at-risk-says-gates https://www.weforum.org

by jjoe 4y ago

Also said by Bill Gates https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018/09/africas-rapid-population-growth-puts-poverty-progress-at-risk-says-gates https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018/09/africas-rapid-populat...

account42 4y ago
Bill has three kids so why should anyone listen to him about this if he wasn't willing to do his part?
- remh 4y ago
  His youngest kid is 20 years old. Are you suggesting that one's perspective cannot change in 20 years or that he should kill his kids?
  - mrguyorama 4y ago
    It's important to note that Bill Gate's view is that population reduction should be done by lifting the world's women out of poverty and giving everyone easy access to birth control methods. This is decidedly less gross than the typical "we have too many people" take. In fact, Bill's take can be valid even if you believe the earth can support billions of more people sustainably.
- LarryMullins 4y ago
  He also flies around in private jets (to this day, not only 20 years ago!) while scolding common people for owning cars. The logic of these rich fucks is something along the lines of "there are few rich people, so rich people polluting doesn't matter. There are lots of poor people, so poor people polluting matters a lot." Rules for thee, not for me. Money is privilege and they think this puts them above the standards they wish to impose on others.
wazoox 4y ago
The problem isn't the Africans with a ridiculously small environmental footprint. The problem is with moguls such as Bill Gates constantly flying in private jet, having more impact each day than an African over their whole life.
- slothtrop 4y ago
  They only have a ridiculously small environmental footprint until they end up moving to the 1st world. And they aren't moving to consume less. Immigration is pegged as a matter of policy to boost consumption, and increase wealth for the wealthy. The fertility rate in the 1st world is stagnant - immigration is the reason the population grows. Emissions rise because of demand, and for the past 20 years, that demand has been a result of rising economies (e.g. China), and to a lesser extent growth in the Western world (through immigration). Emissions will keep rising until that quells. Fortunately, it's projected to in 100 years or so, but ending that sooner is possible and warranted. We can achieve this with universal access to contraceptives, and by lifting countries out of poverty more rapidly.

by jjoe 4y ago

Also said by Bill Gates https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018/09/africas-rapid-population-growth-puts-poverty-progress-at-risk-says-gates https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018/09/africas-rapid-populat...

account42 4y ago

Bill has three kids so why should anyone listen to him about this if he wasn't willing to do his part?

remh 4y ago
His youngest kid is 20 years old. Are you suggesting that one's perspective cannot change in 20 years or that he should kill his kids?
- mrguyorama 4y ago
  It's important to note that Bill Gate's view is that population reduction should be done by lifting the world's women out of poverty and giving everyone easy access to birth control methods. This is decidedly less gross than the typical "we have too many people" take. In fact, Bill's take can be valid even if you believe the earth can support billions of more people sustainably.
LarryMullins 4y ago
He also flies around in private jets (to this day, not only 20 years ago!) while scolding common people for owning cars. The logic of these rich fucks is something along the lines of "there are few rich people, so rich people polluting doesn't matter. There are lots of poor people, so poor people polluting matters a lot." Rules for thee, not for me. Money is privilege and they think this puts them above the standards they wish to impose on others.

wazoox 4y ago

The problem isn't the Africans with a ridiculously small environmental footprint. The problem is with moguls such as Bill Gates constantly flying in private jet, having more impact each day than an African over their whole life.

slothtrop 4y ago
They only have a ridiculously small environmental footprint until they end up moving to the 1st world. And they aren't moving to consume less. Immigration is pegged as a matter of policy to boost consumption, and increase wealth for the wealthy. The fertility rate in the 1st world is stagnant - immigration is the reason the population grows. Emissions rise because of demand, and for the past 20 years, that demand has been a result of rising economies (e.g. China), and to a lesser extent growth in the Western world (through immigration). Emissions will keep rising until that quells. Fortunately, it's projected to in 100 years or so, but ending that sooner is possible and warranted. We can achieve this with universal access to contraceptives, and by lifting countries out of poverty more rapidly.