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> This will help you to conveniently find the products that match your taste, your wallet, and your societal value. To increase your societal value, just be you
by maest 4y ago
> This will help you to conveniently find the products that match your taste, your wallet, and your societal value. To increase your societal value, just be yourself and actively contribute as much as you can. Your efforts will not remain unrewarded.
This is supposed to be dystopian etc, but don't we already have this mechanism in place in our current world? It's called money.
- hemmert 4y agoIt was more aimed at personalized pricing in insurances e.g., but money is indeed all that, too.
- noduerme 4y agoI think that exaggerates the purpose of the world's economy - which for almost everyone, everywhere, all of the time is about sustaining themselves and their kids, not buying products for social value (what the neighbors just got is a very old idea, but the Instagram version of showing it off is very new, and most people just want to live well without trying to impress people with bling). There's also something contained in this assumption about the purpose of money itself that winkingly implies that what all working class boobs aspire to are fancy watches.
- thfuran 4y agoA lot of people place a lot more value on status than you seem to realize.
- noduerme 4y agoI feel like all my friends say this but none of them really care about status either, they just think other people do. Maybe apart from a handful of psychopaths with outsized social media followings, no one really does. Then again, I live in Portland where a lot of people fight for intellectual status but no one would be caught dead showing any sign of material wealth or privilege... but I also feel like people in the red parts of the metro/state are mostly not concerned with status or much beyond living middle class lives either.
- bannedbybros 4y ago[dead]
- robertlagrant 4y agoI think the dystopian aspect is that it's an AI judging your value, not other people giving you some of their finite money based on your value to them.
- zieben 4y agoNo, because in practice it is not real people but corporations (institutional, ersatz paperclip maximizers that shall exist until some capitalist accidentally “innovates” a real one) that control all the money and who gets it. We already live in a dystopia; the only difference is that, thus far, the adversarial AIs still need humans called executives to run them.
- robertlagrant 4y agoI disagree. The state controls the money to a great extent. It can take it, and it can make more of it, and it can lock you in a box if you don't give it, and it can force (some of) you to go and die fighting another country. Corporations are not perfect, but generally speaking they are just scaled up versions of individual workers. A one-person company or a 1000-person company might each need capital investment to get their business going. And they get money by providing value. They don't get to just have it. Now I'm exaggerating slightly, but it seems very odd to view the world as though corporations run it, other than to reflect the fact that corporations are made up of people.
- paulryanrogers 4y agoExcept large corporations hold more money than workers, even if divided per worker. So they can lobby more effectively and gain both the power over private algorithms and regulations.
- robertlagrant 4y agoAgreed, but I mean people (or groups of people) are doing it. To put it another way, there are two types of actor: - the state, who has the ability to pass laws, collect money on pain of being locked up, penalise/encourage businesses through tariffs and regulations, and change the value of money through inflation - people and corporations, who have to provide value to receive money You're right, any of those can do good or bad with the money they receive. But to say that corporations hold the most power because they can lobby the people who actually have power doesn't make sense to me.
- loa_in_ 4y ago> just be yourself and actively contribute as much as you can. Your efforts will not remain unrewarded. That doesn't really give money. It might get you a thumbs up.
- 9dev 4y agoDoesn’t that change with the influencer economy? Most kids I know aspire to become YouTube stars, where, literally, a thumbs up will give you money.