> but what sub-languages are we talking about? I only see a library with helper functions and macros. That's Common Lisp, not a derivative. If your language is

> but what sub-languages are we talking about? I only see a library with helper functions and macros. That's Common Lisp, not a derivative. If your language is a DSL factory, the line between your language and DSLs naturally blurs. If https://github.com/y2q-actionman/with-c-syntax https://github.com/y2q-actionman/with-c-syntax exists, does it mean that C is a DSL of Common Lisp, given a good enough standard library? If https://github.com/calyau/maxima https://github.com/calyau/maxima exists, does it mean that Maxima is just Common Lisp with more maths? If https://github.com/Shen-Language/shen-cl https://github.com/Shen-Language/shen-cl and https://github.com/coalton-lang/coalton/ https://github.com/coalton-lang/coalton/ exist, does it mean that Shen and Coalton are just a fancy way of writing Common Lisp in an immutable way? If https://github.com/froggey/Iota https://github.com/froggey/Iota exists and we can play sdlquake on Mezzano, does it mean that LLVM-IR is a dialect of Common Lisp? The above series of questions is not meant to be fully credible - it's meant to be food for thought.