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After 16 years at Google, i'm pretty sure he doesn't have to work another day in his life.

SilasX 4y ago
You'd think, but then you read stories like this, about people who have worked 16 years at Google but still need the job badly: https://www.businessinsider.com/laid-off-engineer-says-google-considers-staff-disposable-2023-1 https://www.businessinsider.com/laid-off-engineer-says-googl...
- Thorrez 4y ago
  That article doesn't seem to say he needed the job badly.
  - SilasX 4y ago
    Not in those words, no. But if you're that resentful about being laid off, and talking to the media about what a cosmic injustice it is rather than, "oh, well, I guess I can start spending some of the interest on the fortune I built up from 16 years at Google", then yes, you do still need the job badly.
    - nullc 4y ago
      Hm? If you need work and are laid off you don't get mad: you get another job. You get mad if you were working for prestige, connections, or power-- things you can't just replace by getting another job.
      - SilasX 4y ago
        >Hm? If you need work and are laid off you don't get mad: you get another job. Some people do both -- from the context, it sounds like Moore also hopes to replace it with a similar job, while also venting to anyone in the media who will propagate his framing about what a horrible injustice it is that Google can pay him a fortune and keep him around for 16 years. >You get mad if you were working for prestige, connections, or power-- things you can't just replace by getting another job. And this fits your model of someone eager to trade personal time for the prospect of power even when his material needs are met? From the link: >>"This also just drives home that work is not your life, and employers — especially big, faceless ones like Google — see you as 100% disposable," Moore said. >>"Live life, not work," he added.
        nullc 4y ago
        > hopes to replace it with a similar job, while also venting to anyone in the media If so, it's a foolish move! Venting in public absolutely makes someone less employable -- making it a freedom that people with less need of employment have more of! > And this fits your model of someone eager I don't know him so I could only speculate and I don't really have any speculation specific to him to offer. The reason I replied was to dispute the position you took that being mad meant he needed the job. I stated it too strongly: I should have just said "people can get mad about losing a job even when they don't need it, e.g. if they were working for prestige, connections, or power-- probably more so since these are things you can't just replace by getting another job." In other words needing it may be sufficient, but it's not necessary. I think those other reasons are stronger reasons to be mad-- they're harder to replace than a job. > "This also just drives home that work is not your life, and employers — especially big, faceless ones like Google — see you as 100% disposable," "Live life, not work," he added. I've heard statements just like that from people who I know have eight figure net worths and continue to work for someone else. ::shrugs::
      - anonymouskimmer 4y ago
        People who are laid off or fired can get mad for a variety of reasons other than those three you listed. Someone I know worked a lot to build a particular business and was promised by the owner that he'd always have a position there. Then he was let go when the economy went bad. He felt betrayed. Betrayal engenders anger, too.
    - alexgartrell 4y ago
      There are reasons beyond compensation to like a job (fulfillment, relationships, status, etc). If you want to do Google-scale anything, at best you've got 4 other companies to choose from. So you're going to feel hurt if you lose that opportunity for reasons you feel are beyond your control. Especially if you've put 16 years into it and you feel the loyalty is due back.
    - Thorrez 4y ago
      I don't think he talked to the media. The article appears to just be quoting from his LinkedIn post, and other parts of his LinkedIn page. Also I'm not sure he's saying it's a cosmic injustice.
blindriver 4y ago
He wasn't an engineer, so I'm sure his compensation was much lower than what you think.
- hota_mazi 4y ago
  You have it backward. Eng managers, directors, and VP's make tons more money than engineers.
  - blindriver 4y ago
    Olohan was promoted to managing director of food, beverages, and restaurants
- ZephyrBlu 4y ago
  Mate, he was a director and he has 7 kids. He must be at least well off. Probably extremely well off.
  - roarcher 4y ago
    > he has 7 kids In New York City. You're right, that requires a big income. And puts a sizeable dent in it.

You'd think, but then you read stories like this, about people who have worked 16 years at Google but still need the job badly: https://www.businessinsider.com/laid-off-engineer-says-google-considers-staff-disposable-2023-1 https://www.businessinsider.com/laid-off-engineer-says-googl...

Thorrez 4y ago
That article doesn't seem to say he needed the job badly.
- SilasX 4y ago
  Not in those words, no. But if you're that resentful about being laid off, and talking to the media about what a cosmic injustice it is rather than, "oh, well, I guess I can start spending some of the interest on the fortune I built up from 16 years at Google", then yes, you do still need the job badly.
  - nullc 4y ago
    Hm? If you need work and are laid off you don't get mad: you get another job. You get mad if you were working for prestige, connections, or power-- things you can't just replace by getting another job.
    - SilasX 4y ago
      >Hm? If you need work and are laid off you don't get mad: you get another job. Some people do both -- from the context, it sounds like Moore also hopes to replace it with a similar job, while also venting to anyone in the media who will propagate his framing about what a horrible injustice it is that Google can pay him a fortune and keep him around for 16 years. >You get mad if you were working for prestige, connections, or power-- things you can't just replace by getting another job. And this fits your model of someone eager to trade personal time for the prospect of power even when his material needs are met? From the link: >>"This also just drives home that work is not your life, and employers — especially big, faceless ones like Google — see you as 100% disposable," Moore said. >>"Live life, not work," he added.
      - nullc 4y ago
        > hopes to replace it with a similar job, while also venting to anyone in the media If so, it's a foolish move! Venting in public absolutely makes someone less employable -- making it a freedom that people with less need of employment have more of! > And this fits your model of someone eager I don't know him so I could only speculate and I don't really have any speculation specific to him to offer. The reason I replied was to dispute the position you took that being mad meant he needed the job. I stated it too strongly: I should have just said "people can get mad about losing a job even when they don't need it, e.g. if they were working for prestige, connections, or power-- probably more so since these are things you can't just replace by getting another job." In other words needing it may be sufficient, but it's not necessary. I think those other reasons are stronger reasons to be mad-- they're harder to replace than a job. > "This also just drives home that work is not your life, and employers — especially big, faceless ones like Google — see you as 100% disposable," "Live life, not work," he added. I've heard statements just like that from people who I know have eight figure net worths and continue to work for someone else. ::shrugs::
    - anonymouskimmer 4y ago
      People who are laid off or fired can get mad for a variety of reasons other than those three you listed. Someone I know worked a lot to build a particular business and was promised by the owner that he'd always have a position there. Then he was let go when the economy went bad. He felt betrayed. Betrayal engenders anger, too.
  - alexgartrell 4y ago
    There are reasons beyond compensation to like a job (fulfillment, relationships, status, etc). If you want to do Google-scale anything, at best you've got 4 other companies to choose from. So you're going to feel hurt if you lose that opportunity for reasons you feel are beyond your control. Especially if you've put 16 years into it and you feel the loyalty is due back.
  - Thorrez 4y ago
    I don't think he talked to the media. The article appears to just be quoting from his LinkedIn post, and other parts of his LinkedIn page. Also I'm not sure he's saying it's a cosmic injustice.

blindriver 4y ago

He wasn't an engineer, so I'm sure his compensation was much lower than what you think.

hota_mazi 4y ago
You have it backward. Eng managers, directors, and VP's make tons more money than engineers.
- blindriver 4y ago
  Olohan was promoted to managing director of food, beverages, and restaurants
ZephyrBlu 4y ago
Mate, he was a director and he has 7 kids. He must be at least well off. Probably extremely well off.
- roarcher 4y ago
  > he has 7 kids In New York City. You're right, that requires a big income. And puts a sizeable dent in it.