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Seems like no one believes him. Let's be honest: How often have you heard news about a woman molesting a man vs. a man molesting a woman?
by siva7 4y ago
Seems like no one believes him. Let's be honest: How often have you heard news about a woman molesting a man vs. a man molesting a woman?
- justmaybe456 4y ago[dead]
- ilyt 4y agoThe news cycle prefers news that get more clicks and the "high ranking male google boss gropes a female" sells better. I'd be wary to judge by press coverage. Also, reporting rate is probably different for males vs females.
- SamoyedFurFluff 4y agoI’ve definitely heard of male wait staff and male nurses being sexually harassed by women.
- croes 4y agoAnyone remembers the film Disclosure from 1994 with Demi Moore and Michael Douglas?
- preordained 4y agoI remember the book...exactly what I thought of.
- LarryMullins 4y agoMostly just the cool VR sequences. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qk3PK3W_wvo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qk3PK3W_wvo
- boppo1 4y agoI was working as a busboy reaching up for a glass when an older server woman grabbed my ass so 'deeply' that her fingers almost reached my testicles, then squeezed like she was wringing out an orange. Even though I was unattracted to her, I was flattered at the time. Nonetheless, I'm pretty sure that's well past the bar for molestation.
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- anonymouskimmer 4y agoHoly crap. Ditto except it was just a pinch and I wasn't at all flattered, I was shocked. I don't remember whether I was still 17 or had just turned 18. It was probably when I was still 17 though, as I went to college just days after turning 18. She was probably 3 times my age or so.
- boppo1 4y agoI was also 18 and also shocked. But women gave me so little positive attention that that was welcome.
- homonculus1 4y ago[dead]
- barfingclouds 4y agoNot an extreme example, but after I started working out more, a female coworker and boss would randomly touch my arms and shoulders when talking to me. Both about double my age. In my case it didn’t bother me at all, but I just find it funny how little they have to worry about their actions being seen as too far.
- yieldcrv 4y agowomen victims have paltry statistics, which is why we know about the depth of them at all men victims have almost no statistics, because they are not collected the absense of evidence is not the evidence of absence, this guy tried reporting it and the complaint was tossed in a dusty chamber like a chicago rape kit
- naasking 4y agoPerhaps you don't hear of it because of stigmas associated with talking about it. The data is there, though preliminary because of those prevailing attitudes: https://spssi.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/josi.12559 https://spssi.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/josi....
- bombolo 4y agoI've played music in dive bars. I've certainly been groped and also kissed when in the middle of a crowd.
- Godel_unicode 4y agoYeah, concerts, dive bars, festivals, sporting events. Generally, although not exclusively, older women. They always seem so surprised when I’m not flattered…
- giardini 4y agoWell, honestly, you are pretty ugly!8-))
- Godel_unicode 4y agoDoes saying things like this make you feel better? Do you think that the world is a better place?
- giardini 4y agoNo, but it needed to be said. I could ask you the same question but I'd probably get a less interesting answer.
- Godel_unicode 4y agoOh I dunno, “you’re a mouth breather who makes everything around them worse” is pretty interesting.
- tonfreed 4y agoIt shouldn't be a competition. If a man abuses his power over a female (or male, for that matter) employee, then they should have the book thrown at them. The same should apply for women. I hate the level of politicisation over this, it's a shitty thing to do no matter who does it.
- seadan83 4y agoIt's one of those, "see, woman can do X too, so why are we so focused on only men doing X" Similar too, "white people are shot by cops". Similar to "white people are discriminated against in colleges". The point is true it is shitty no matter. Though, now the conversation is shifted if a person were to focus on root causes of either problem. Overall, false equivalence.
- schroeding 4y ago... so don't talk about it, keep it quiet, because it "shifts the conversation"? :/ Sorry, I see your point, I know that this is used to derail conversations, you're right, but "false equivalence" kinda implies that one thing is worse than the other. It is, systematically, but it isn't, personally. If you were raped, it doesn't help you that the power dynamic is and was different in our society between genders and your chance was lower, you are still as scarred for life. Maybe say this explicitly also, when talking about "false equivalence". It may be kinda hurtful to hear people say more or less "oh yeah, both shitty, but one thing is the real problem in society, let's not derail" without this very important distinction. Because you cannot assume that everyone or even the majority makes that distinction. Everyone agrees that people getting shot is bad on the personal level for the victim, because then they are dead. But many people think a e.g. boy getting raped (regardless of the perpetrators gender) is less of a problem on the personal level for the victim. It is not. It really is not. And it hurts, because even people you trust suddenly say shit like "for boys it's not that serious, they don't keep this baggage for the rest of their life", "they work it out fast". But it's just not true. I know that you probably didn't mean it that way, I just wanna tell you that that's the way it may be read. Because many people actually say this and mean it in the "on the personal level, for the victim, it's not as bad" way and thus it may be very difficult not to default to the "worse" interpretation, after being burned by assuming the "better" interpretation once before. Sorry for the nitpicking ^^'
- 0xcafefood 4y agoIn past years, I've seen at least as many news stories about female teachers sleeping with or otherwise abusing their students as I have about a man doing the same. It's possible that's just a "man bites dog" effect, but I suspect stories like that would get aired when either a man or a woman does it.
- wrycoder 4y agoThere aren’t many male teachers left.
- anonymouskimmer 4y agoSo you're saying that male teachers disproportionately abuse compared to female teachers?
- naasking 4y agoOr the abuse from male teachers gets more coverage.
- lelanthran 4y ago> Let's be honest: How often have you heard news about a woman molesting a man vs. a man molesting a woman? How often do you expect to hear about it when all the complaints are officially dismissed and the victim is told to shut up?
- anonymouskimmer 4y agoEvery day ten of thousands of people are being sexually harassed, and a thousand + are being sexually assaulted. We don't hear about the vast majority of these cases, even if they are prosecuted, regardless of the sexes of perpetrator and victim.
- lelanthran 4y ago> Every day ten of thousands of people are being sexually harassed, and a thousand + are being sexually assaulted. We don't hear about the vast majority of these cases, even if they are prosecuted, regardless of the sexes of perpetrator and victim. Sure, but because of the way male victims are treated, you hear even less about them than about female victims.
- 2xpress 4y agohttps://mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt0139.htm#5 https://mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt0139.htm#5
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- aflag 4y agoNot as infrequently as I'd like. Though usually people will chuckle it up and do nothing about it. People actually have a hard time believing men don't like it