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When I'm in the mood of reading a bunch of smug nerds pontificating and preaching, I click on any popsci or diet-related article on HN. Never fails to entertain
by sph 4y ago
When I'm in the mood of reading a bunch of smug nerds pontificating and preaching, I click on any popsci or diet-related article on HN. Never fails to entertain.
Nofap like many things has been turned into a brand, and even politicised to the point some idiots attack it saying it's far right ideology. On the other hand there are teenagers with serious porn-related issues that think nofap will turn them into superhumans. But the smug nerd on the internet doesn't stop to consider the nofap movement that's become a caricature of its former self, still is a major indicator of the emotional and physical problems porn is causing to many men and women. It's an epidemic.
Go crank all you want because a popsci article said so, but if you haven't seen how widespread and destructive porn addiction is, this must be your first day on the Internet. I already imagine the retort "well, just don't watch porn then." Because only idiots and weak-willed people get addicted.
Sorry, I'm in a cranky mood because I've struggled with porn addiction myself, I have had someone confess they suffer from it just a few hours ago, and I'm bitter how what was a porn addiction support group like nofap managed to turn itself into a joke—and they have themselves to blame, yet porn still is something people laugh about for internet karma.
/rant
- EGreg 4y ago“Sorry, I’m in a cranky mood” Made me look up the word cranky and found “crankshaft” - a shaft driven by a crank that turns reciprocating motion into rotating motion. Legit. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reciprocating_motion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reciprocating_motion
- gardenhedge 4y agoI understand that you may have a different perspective, but being passive-aggressive in your comments doesn't help communicate your thoughts effectively. It's better to be direct and clear in your statements so that everyone can understand your perspective.
- bamboozled 4y agostill is a major indicator of the emotional and physical problems porn is causing to many men and women. It's an epidemic. What are the physical problems one can get through watching porn? If this study is accurate, it seems batting off more often may be a good thing ?
- sph 4y agoErectile dysfunction for one, which was once an aging related problem, now affects people in their 20s.
- bamboozled 4y agoIs that physiological though? Maybe psychological?
- altdataseller 4y agoIs there a practical difference?
- bamboozled 4y agoIf you Google it you will find there is. There are some people who cannot get an erection no matter what, they need to get a "bionic penis" implant. It has nothing to do with porn consumption and is physiological. I read somewhere some people have "performance anxiety" after watching a lot of porn and lose their boner before penetration, but that's completely different to "never getting a boner".
- scoofy 4y agoIt's not far-right, it's just religious folks. I grew up in the church, and while I didn't take it seriously, many of my friends in our religious school did. We were made to believe that masturbation was really not good for you, and neither was pornography, which might seem reasonable to some folks. However, when you step back and see humans as just some primates that learned math, well it seems kind of ridiculous to expect adolescent boys full of testosterone to not masturbate regularly, and consume pornography. Dealing with that cognitive dissonance is extremely difficult for some, and seeking a place where not engaging in it is "cool." It's a place for the group to exist with in-group loyalty and mutual reassurance. I feel bad for the folks in nofap, but religious folks will always be with us.
- Barrin92 4y ago>It's not far-right, it's just religious folks whenever groups of young men engage in sexual self-repression that almost always has a political component. And pay attention to the "men" part, because nofap is almost exclusively a male phenomenon. Religious sexual repression is not, if anything the opposite. Also religious sexual repression is compliance with religious law, not necessarily an act of voluntary discipline. "nofap" in contrast is essentially an extremely online version of Fight Club, and the political undertones are pretty obvious. It's mostly disaffected guys deciding to undertake some Yukio Mishima-esque training to combat their low self-esteem.
- sph 4y agoI'm atheist from birth. My family is atheist and I live in Europe. You'd have a hard time finding someone so far removed from religion. Yet I believe porn is one of the worst addictions, and masturbation, even without porn, should be moderated, but these days the two things work in concert. It's not a religious book that told me that, it's real life experience.
- _k7dr 4y agoYeah I agree, the frustration is real. You can't really joke about "serious" addictions like heroin or binge eating like you can with porn, and it results in your concerns being taken less seriously. Sexual humor is validated everywhere and it entraps those with less self control And one thing I haven't seen mentioned a whole lot, the release of Stable Diffusion has made my problem way, way worse. I've been magnetized to the screen for weeks on end reading up on machine learning concepts and training on dozens of datasets, just to fuel my addiction and the inner weaknesses that prop it up I sometimes wonder if this is the future, if this kind of irresistible, infinite ultra-personalization is here to stay, and the paper writers will continue to keep their "Ethics" sections to a maximum of five sentences each buried in the back
- altdataseller 4y agoI don't understand. How has the release of Stable Diffusion made your porn addiction worse?
- bulbosaur123 4y agoUnstable diffusion.
- caiquelira 4y agoIt can be used to generate hyper-personalized porn.
- runald 4y agoHorse diffusion
- wrycoder 4y ago[dead]
- fennecfoxy 4y agoIt's also bc having a high libido/being horny all the time is still very stigmatised. As a gay man this is one of the many major differences I see between the gay & hetero communities; in the gay community we generally celebrate libido & sexual freedom.
- dang 4y agoPlease don't post in the flamewar style to HN, please don't fulminate, and please don't post sneers at the rest of the community. If you're posting here, you're as much "HN" as anyone else is. All of this is in the site guidelines, so if you'd please review them and stick to them in the future, we'd appreciate it. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Edit: We already had to ask you this just recently: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34528453 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34528453