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Umm, northern Italy? Where do you think Rome is?
by sojournerc 4y ago
Umm, northern Italy? Where do you think Rome is?
- triceratops 4y agoRome wasn't part of the HRE for a large part of its existence. The emperor was considered the continuation of the old Roman emperors, and was "holy" because the Pope crowned him. I'm not an expert on Italian geography or anything but I think of Rome as the beginning of southern Italy. Milan and Turin are the major cities I associate with north Italy. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_states_in_the_Holy_Roman_Empire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_states_in_the_Holy_Rom...
- rob74 4y agoMost Romans would probably frown at you for debating whether Rome is in northern or southern Italy. Rome is at the center of the world, or failing that, at least at the center of Italy!
- triceratops 4y agoOk so then it's definitely not Northern Italy :-)
- TheCoelacanth 4y agoWell, yes, as the old joke goes, the Holy Roman Empire wasn't holy, wasn't Roman and wasn't an Empire.
- piaste 4y agoVoltaire made that joke in the late 18th century, when the dying HRE had been reduced to a multi-confessional German confederation. The medieval HRE, especially the Carolingian one, had a much better claim to the titles.
- Bayart 4y agoThe Carolingian Empire isn't the HRE. The HRE started with the Ottonians.