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> The day Tiktok is banned in the USA, that's the day the American decline starts. TikTok's availability in the US is your metric for the success of the Americ

> The day Tiktok is banned in the USA, that's the day the American decline starts. TikTok's availability in the US is your metric for the success of the American experiment?

reactspa 4y ago
When American innovations are banned in countries like Iran, Russia, France, and China, we laugh at them. If the shoe fits...
- SpeedilyDamage 4y ago
  Who laughs at them? That’s not the sentiment in any groups I belong to or participate in…
- jonathanlb 4y ago
  > Iran, Russia, France, and China One of these is not like the others.
  - reactspa 4y ago
    You'd be surprised at how protectionist France is. Especially when it concerns content in English.
- jimbo9991 4y ago
  Some of us agree with the bans of American weapons of mass destruction as well as their equivalents promulgated by another world power. They should all be banned.
3d3456 4y ago
Huwaei first and now tiktok. It is an indication that american tech is starting to be outpaced by chinese tech. Which shouldn't be too shocking considering china recently has overtaken the US as the top producer of scientific research ( both in quality and quantity ). And this trend is only going to accelerate in the coming years/decades. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/aug/11/china-overtakes-the-us-in-scientific-research-output https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/aug/11/china-overtake... Banning huwaei and tiktok shows a lack of confidence in our ability to compete. The same thing happened with japanese car manufacturers in the 70s and 80s. In the 50s and 60s, we laughed at them but once they started making better cars, there were calls to ban japanese cars. The exact same rhetoric used against china today was used against japan back then. But since japan was an "ally", we forced them to transfer/share technology ( especially management/production techniques/technology ) with US manufacturers and move their car production to the US. I don't think we are going to be able to strong-arm and bully the chinese like we did the japanese. But ultimately, I think banning tiktok is a good thing because every nation should control their own media ( traditional or social ).
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- vinay427 4y ago
  The Huawei ban, as I recall, was mostly about 5G equipment for which the primary competitor is Ericsson (based in Sweden). There wasn’t really a viable US alternative and the ban wasn’t protecting some US-based company.

> The day Tiktok is banned in the USA, that's the day the American decline starts. TikTok's availability in the US is your metric for the success of the American experiment?

reactspa 4y ago

When American innovations are banned in countries like Iran, Russia, France, and China, we laugh at them. If the shoe fits...

SpeedilyDamage 4y ago
Who laughs at them? That’s not the sentiment in any groups I belong to or participate in…
jonathanlb 4y ago
> Iran, Russia, France, and China One of these is not like the others.
- reactspa 4y ago
  You'd be surprised at how protectionist France is. Especially when it concerns content in English.
jimbo9991 4y ago
Some of us agree with the bans of American weapons of mass destruction as well as their equivalents promulgated by another world power. They should all be banned.

3d3456 4y ago

Huwaei first and now tiktok. It is an indication that american tech is starting to be outpaced by chinese tech. Which shouldn't be too shocking considering china recently has overtaken the US as the top producer of scientific research ( both in quality and quantity ). And this trend is only going to accelerate in the coming years/decades. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/aug/11/china-overtakes-the-us-in-scientific-research-output https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/aug/11/china-overtake... Banning huwaei and tiktok shows a lack of confidence in our ability to compete. The same thing happened with japanese car manufacturers in the 70s and 80s. In the 50s and 60s, we laughed at them but once they started making better cars, there were calls to ban japanese cars. The exact same rhetoric used against china today was used against japan back then. But since japan was an "ally", we forced them to transfer/share technology ( especially management/production techniques/technology ) with US manufacturers and move their car production to the US. I don't think we are going to be able to strong-arm and bully the chinese like we did the japanese. But ultimately, I think banning tiktok is a good thing because every nation should control their own media ( traditional or social ).

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vinay427 4y ago
The Huawei ban, as I recall, was mostly about 5G equipment for which the primary competitor is Ericsson (based in Sweden). There wasn’t really a viable US alternative and the ban wasn’t protecting some US-based company.