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While I applaud the initiative and effort, I want to urge the author to consult a good proofreader. I’m only in chapter 2 yet I’ve already encountered enough fr
by Jolter 4y ago
While I applaud the initiative and effort, I want to urge the author to consult a good proofreader. I’m only in chapter 2 yet I’ve already encountered enough friction in the form of poor English to put me off. I think the substance looks great, so it’s a bit wasteful to not walk the last mile and make it genuinely enjoyable to read by eliminating blatant errors like this one:
“The Redis is an example of the server/client system.”
- m00dy 4y agoI would ask chatgpt to refactor his text rather than waiting him to do so... I think poor english as an excuse will be a thing of past.
- travisgriggs 4y agoInstead of saying “the singer sounds so autotuned” we’ll soon be whining “the text reads too autogpt” (I propose a pronunciation of “auto-jipped”).
- chimeracoder 4y ago> (I propose a pronunciation of “auto-jipped”). Probably want to pick another term, since that's a homonym of a racial slur.
- travisgriggs 4y agoSigh. I had to actually go look this up. Sometimes it's just easier not to talk, because all of the skeletons of old normalized words come to light. I truly was not trying to slur anyone, and apologize if my (unlucky) attempt at humor resonated sour for anyone.
- ly3xqhl8g9 4y agoI propose adding some Unicode sign like the double turnstile [1], ⊨ (ALT+8875), which can signify "is a semantic consequence of" or "is stronger than", after a polysemic word to imply that no racial/socially derogatory connotation is to be derived from the word in that phrase, for example, "the text reads too auto-jipped⊨" or "the master⊨ branch is fubar" in a Git context. Or perhaps an even better sign would be the negated double turnstile, ⊭, "to denote the statement 'does not entail'" [1], making it more explicit. Hence an example would look like "the text reads too auto-jipped(⊭racism)", which can be read "the text reads too auto-jipped and this word, auto-jipped, does not entail racism in this context". Ok, done, racism solved, your move David Guetta [2]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_turnstile https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_turnstile [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEI7oX0XxJw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEI7oX0XxJw
- toyg 4y agoThat would be abused faster than you can type "gamer".
- madeofpalk 4y agoI would rather poor English than confidently completely factually incorrect.
- Kiro 4y agoWhy would it be factually incorrect? You tell it to proof-read, not add stuff. It works great.
- madeofpalk 4y agoChatGPT does not know how to proof read. It is not an artificial inteligence. It will take your input and determine the most likely response matching the data it was trained with. Just like how ChatGPT fails at simple math - ChatGPT doesn't know math https://ai.stackexchange.com/questions/38220/why-is-chatgpt-bad-at-math https://ai.stackexchange.com/questions/38220/why-is-chatgpt-...
- williamcotton 4y agoI’ve learned over the last few months that there are certain trigger words that instigate basically pointless discussion around e.g. “what it means to learn”. I can now add “read” to that list. Let’s play word taboo! The rules are we can’t talk about GPT using anthropomorphic terminology. Does GPT predict less than useful mathematical computations? Yes, and not just less than useful but basically useless. Does GPT predict less than useful language translations, ranging from English-French, to summaries, in-the-style-of, etc? No, it’s actually quite useful as when confined to only the information contained in a prompt it doesn’t have to hallucinate an answer. It is not useful to anthropomorphize the functionality of these tools in either a practical or legal context. And everyone pick up a copy of Philosophical Investigations by Wittgenstein so y’all can learn about how to avoid snake-eating-tail discourse.
- madeofpalk 4y agoOf course you're more than welcome to use whatever tech for whatever purpose. Personally, I'm not confident that ChatGPT wouldn't hallucinate facts when prompted to 'just' proof-read. I would rather poor English than confident factual errors.
- ohjeez 4y agoWhen I see poorly written prose, it makes me distrust the technology imparted. If you can't take time to get the grammar right, why should I believe that you got the code right?
- tarkin2 4y agoIt's possible to be good at coding yet poor at grammar.
- huimang 4y agoNot everyone speaks English as their native language.
- KptMarchewa 4y agoTrue, but looking at author name - James Smith - it does not seem to be the case.
- kybernetikos 4y agoPotentially, but on the other hand, James Smith is exactly the sort of name you'd choose to use in the Anglosphere if your birth name was difficult to pronounce for English speakers.
- ilyt 4y agoThat's like complaining book writer site have shitty JS. "If you can't write code why should I believe that the prose you write is any better?" That being said they are selling it and that's enough reason to complain.
- kybernetikos 4y agoThere are many signals you can use to help you judge the value of a written piece of text. In this case, it reads to me much more as the writing of someone for whom English is not their native language than of someone who doesn't know what they're talking about technically. If you want to pre-judge all technical content coming from people who have not spent huge portions of their life living in an English speaking country as being of no value, then I'm sure that will protect you from some bad content, but you're going to be missing out on an awful lot of good stuff too.
- aejnsn 4y agoI am absolutely with you. There’s a certain large company I work for who has public documentation full of stuff like this. It makes me insane when I find it so glaring. There’s an internal program to proofread and review, but quantity is incentivized, not quality. I’ve tried to shove that program in a better direction to no avail.
- jamil7 4y agoI noticed that in the blog post announcing the book and that was enough to put me off.