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What sparks joy for me is not reading pieces of junk that defame a person's character because they are now vulnerable. Imagine having a new kid under 2 and you

What sparks joy for me is not reading pieces of junk that defame a person's character because they are now vulnerable. Imagine having a new kid under 2 and you mention in a random interview your life is a little messy right now. The media then takes this idea of a huge contradiction of a public figure a little too much to heart and starts writing slander pieces. Envy is such a terrible human trait.

MR4D 4y ago
> Envy is such a terrible human trait. There’s a reason it’s one of the 7 Deadly Sins.
- bigbluedots 4y ago
  Yes, in a series of made up tales about faeries in the garden
  - MR4D 4y ago
    I'm sorry, I don't understand the reference?
nmz 4y ago
How is this envy?
CommieBobDole 4y ago
I read your comment before reading the article, and expected to find some sneering torrent of vitriol seething with hatred for Marie Kondo and everything she stands for. Instead it was a bubbly little wisp of a human interest piece with a joke at the end about the rest of us now being free to stew in our own slop. It seems to be poking the mildest of fun at Kondo's admission that having kids doesn't leave her a lot of time to tidy up to the same standards she used to. And I assume we both read the same linked article. I guess this just shows how one's own experiences and resulting preconceptions affect perception of the same material; and that applies to both of us.
- jstarfish 4y ago
  It's unflattering and serves no purpose other than to discredit her as an ideology. Even the title prefix "Relatable:" betrays this. Our role models aren't supposed to be relatable, they're supposed to be better than us. Showing us that they aren't is just the adult equivalent of telling kids Santa isn't real. It doesn't spark Joy, it crushes Hope. Trolling masquerading as journalism. (FFS, people are still trying to find dirt on Fred Rogers. Leave the man alone and let the rest of us believe that not everyone and everything on this rock needs to be awful 24/7.)
  - commoner 4y ago
    There's nothing negative about describing a celebrity as relatable. Relatability is something most celebrities these days strive for in order to portray themselves as more authentic to their audience. For celebrities that heavily rely on social media, relatability attracts followers and sales. https://www.diggitmagazine.com/articles/supposed-authenticity-social-media-celebrities https://www.diggitmagazine.com/articles/supposed-authenticit... https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/apr/05/its-genuine-you-know-why-the-online-influencer-industry-is-going-authentic https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/apr/05/its-genuine-yo...
    - jstarfish 4y ago
      Fair point, but she started as a guru selling an Idea. She's a celebrity after that. I think I'm just angry that she sold out. Relatability in terms of acknowledging you don't/can't eat your own dogfood makes the whole thing feel like a betrayal. (...not unlike watching Rachael Ray go from being a celebrity chef to a name on a line of literal dog food.)
      - nmz 4y ago
        And its still a good idea, but she's still human, having kids is overwhelming for everyone (except the rich) She's not selling out, she's showing imperfection, a trait of all human beings. The expectation of human transcendence and perfection is I'm sorry to say, a bit childish.
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ChrisClark 4y ago
Well, you should actually read this one then. It's is full support of her and thinks it is a good idea. Reading comments from people who did not read the article does not spark joy for me.
commoner 4y ago
Did you read the original Washington Post article that TFA is referencing? https://www.washingtonpost.com/home/2023/01/26/marie-kondo-kurashi-inner-calm/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/home/2023/01/26/marie-kondo-k... Marie Kondo released a new book last November (Kurashi at Home) which describes her change in direction. This publicity for her book is in no way unflattering to her, and I expect that she would enjoy the sales gained from the extra attention.
- thenerdhead 4y ago
  Yes thanks for pointing it out, I just wrote a comment above regarding how this is likely just the media manipulating public opinion and a typical tactic used for best sellers.
iLoveOncall 4y ago
What sparks joy for me is calling out people that didn't read the article before commenting. It has literally nothing defamatory, on the contrary.
anderspitman 4y ago
> To which Gizmodo says: good for her!
bigbluedots 4y ago
The article is very supportive of her! There is no slander in it at all. What the hell is wrong with people
happytoexplain 4y ago
This description is in a different universe from the actual article. This is an enormously negative criticism of something that this isn't an instance of, and since your criticism is about the negativity of the author, it seems pretty hypocritical.
karmakaze 4y ago
I read the picture caption text "I'm so excited because I love mess." That doesn't indicate any kind of giving up, merely a change in priorities/values. I didn't sense any envy or negativity in the post at all. > "To which Gizmodo says: good for her!"
b3lvedere 4y ago
I sure hope people can understand that no human with a specific gimmick/expertise/expert "thing" is always 100% aligned with that specific thing. No developer is 100% developing. No professional gamer is 100% gaming professionally, etc. Like the universe around us we are moving constantly changing (evolving?) creatures. We are not our profession constantly. There's too much hyperfocus these days. I hope she made good money out of all that stuff and can focus on what she wants to focus on without being judged for it.

MR4D 4y ago

> Envy is such a terrible human trait. There’s a reason it’s one of the 7 Deadly Sins.

bigbluedots 4y ago
Yes, in a series of made up tales about faeries in the garden
- MR4D 4y ago
  I'm sorry, I don't understand the reference?

nmz 4y ago

How is this envy?

CommieBobDole 4y ago

I read your comment before reading the article, and expected to find some sneering torrent of vitriol seething with hatred for Marie Kondo and everything she stands for. Instead it was a bubbly little wisp of a human interest piece with a joke at the end about the rest of us now being free to stew in our own slop. It seems to be poking the mildest of fun at Kondo's admission that having kids doesn't leave her a lot of time to tidy up to the same standards she used to. And I assume we both read the same linked article. I guess this just shows how one's own experiences and resulting preconceptions affect perception of the same material; and that applies to both of us.

jstarfish 4y ago
It's unflattering and serves no purpose other than to discredit her as an ideology. Even the title prefix "Relatable:" betrays this. Our role models aren't supposed to be relatable, they're supposed to be better than us. Showing us that they aren't is just the adult equivalent of telling kids Santa isn't real. It doesn't spark Joy, it crushes Hope. Trolling masquerading as journalism. (FFS, people are still trying to find dirt on Fred Rogers. Leave the man alone and let the rest of us believe that not everyone and everything on this rock needs to be awful 24/7.)
- commoner 4y ago
  There's nothing negative about describing a celebrity as relatable. Relatability is something most celebrities these days strive for in order to portray themselves as more authentic to their audience. For celebrities that heavily rely on social media, relatability attracts followers and sales. https://www.diggitmagazine.com/articles/supposed-authenticity-social-media-celebrities https://www.diggitmagazine.com/articles/supposed-authenticit... https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/apr/05/its-genuine-you-know-why-the-online-influencer-industry-is-going-authentic https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/apr/05/its-genuine-yo...
  - jstarfish 4y ago
    Fair point, but she started as a guru selling an Idea. She's a celebrity after that. I think I'm just angry that she sold out. Relatability in terms of acknowledging you don't/can't eat your own dogfood makes the whole thing feel like a betrayal. (...not unlike watching Rachael Ray go from being a celebrity chef to a name on a line of literal dog food.)
    - nmz 4y ago
      And its still a good idea, but she's still human, having kids is overwhelming for everyone (except the rich) She's not selling out, she's showing imperfection, a trait of all human beings. The expectation of human transcendence and perfection is I'm sorry to say, a bit childish.

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ChrisClark 4y ago

Well, you should actually read this one then. It's is full support of her and thinks it is a good idea. Reading comments from people who did not read the article does not spark joy for me.

commoner 4y ago

Did you read the original Washington Post article that TFA is referencing? https://www.washingtonpost.com/home/2023/01/26/marie-kondo-kurashi-inner-calm/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/home/2023/01/26/marie-kondo-k... Marie Kondo released a new book last November (Kurashi at Home) which describes her change in direction. This publicity for her book is in no way unflattering to her, and I expect that she would enjoy the sales gained from the extra attention.

thenerdhead 4y ago
Yes thanks for pointing it out, I just wrote a comment above regarding how this is likely just the media manipulating public opinion and a typical tactic used for best sellers.

iLoveOncall 4y ago

What sparks joy for me is calling out people that didn't read the article before commenting. It has literally nothing defamatory, on the contrary.

anderspitman 4y ago

> To which Gizmodo says: good for her!

bigbluedots 4y ago

The article is very supportive of her! There is no slander in it at all. What the hell is wrong with people

happytoexplain 4y ago

This description is in a different universe from the actual article. This is an enormously negative criticism of something that this isn't an instance of, and since your criticism is about the negativity of the author, it seems pretty hypocritical.

karmakaze 4y ago

I read the picture caption text "I'm so excited because I love mess." That doesn't indicate any kind of giving up, merely a change in priorities/values. I didn't sense any envy or negativity in the post at all. > "To which Gizmodo says: good for her!"

b3lvedere 4y ago

I sure hope people can understand that no human with a specific gimmick/expertise/expert "thing" is always 100% aligned with that specific thing. No developer is 100% developing. No professional gamer is 100% gaming professionally, etc. Like the universe around us we are moving constantly changing (evolving?) creatures. We are not our profession constantly. There's too much hyperfocus these days. I hope she made good money out of all that stuff and can focus on what she wants to focus on without being judged for it.