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I don't think that it's legal in Russia to just build a hut in the wood and cut trees around. Of course if it's depths of Siberia, nobody will notice, but if it

I don't think that it's legal in Russia to just build a hut in the wood and cut trees around. Of course if it's depths of Siberia, nobody will notice, but if it's near big city, it might be different. So this might be one factor why he's away from civilization. He does not want to deal with bureaucrats.

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nibbleshifter 4y ago
> He does not want to deal with bureaucrats. Highly likely. He lives just far enough out that they can't be fucked dealing with him.
- dopidopHN 4y ago
  Exactly, late in the 1800 , early 1900 it was common for a orthodox sect to just recede further in the Siberian taïga. Some geological team found a familly of those guy and gal in the 80s. They were doing surprisingly well. ( to an extend )
  - culebron21 4y ago
    Oh, the Lykov family [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lykov_family https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lykov_family]. The encounter was devastating for the family, because all 4 sons (aged about 20+ I guess) died of pneumonia they caught from the geologists (as they weren't vaccinated and never met any human pathogenes in their entire life). Only their daughter survived and she's still alive there, with a man who came to help her recently. But I doubt that they did well. They complained to the geologists that their metal dishes were wearing out to holes. They still did have some sickles to cut some crops, but I'm sure they'd get out of order within a decade too. Apparently, in such a small number of people it's impossible to produce metal and tools. There's a better example: "Happy People" documentary [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbhPIK-oBvA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbhPIK-oBvA], about a village of hunters on the Yenissei river, with only river transport to the civilization. It looks very romantic untill the end where you see nunters selling furs cheaper than they hope, and they still depend on tools and fuel.
    - dopidopHN 4y ago
      Yeah that’s them! I find it really impressive that they survived so long, and managed to carry so much complexes activities. You mention sickles, they were aware that they were running low on barley and we’re actively preserving seeds instead of eating it. Little details like that make me think they had a good command of living where they were.
culebron21 4y ago
Villages are depopulating across entire Russia except for South-West, so it's not hard to find an abandoned house. It would lack glass and some floors whould probably have been cut for (fire)wood, but if you have an axe/saw, a temporary fix isn't hard. Then, you can scavenge glass and plywood from other houses to fix windows. In such villages there's no bureaucrat around to be bothered by this.

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nibbleshifter 4y ago

> He does not want to deal with bureaucrats. Highly likely. He lives just far enough out that they can't be fucked dealing with him.

dopidopHN 4y ago
Exactly, late in the 1800 , early 1900 it was common for a orthodox sect to just recede further in the Siberian taïga. Some geological team found a familly of those guy and gal in the 80s. They were doing surprisingly well. ( to an extend )
- culebron21 4y ago
  Oh, the Lykov family [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lykov_family https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lykov_family]. The encounter was devastating for the family, because all 4 sons (aged about 20+ I guess) died of pneumonia they caught from the geologists (as they weren't vaccinated and never met any human pathogenes in their entire life). Only their daughter survived and she's still alive there, with a man who came to help her recently. But I doubt that they did well. They complained to the geologists that their metal dishes were wearing out to holes. They still did have some sickles to cut some crops, but I'm sure they'd get out of order within a decade too. Apparently, in such a small number of people it's impossible to produce metal and tools. There's a better example: "Happy People" documentary [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbhPIK-oBvA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbhPIK-oBvA], about a village of hunters on the Yenissei river, with only river transport to the civilization. It looks very romantic untill the end where you see nunters selling furs cheaper than they hope, and they still depend on tools and fuel.
  - dopidopHN 4y ago
    Yeah that’s them! I find it really impressive that they survived so long, and managed to carry so much complexes activities. You mention sickles, they were aware that they were running low on barley and we’re actively preserving seeds instead of eating it. Little details like that make me think they had a good command of living where they were.

culebron21 4y ago

Villages are depopulating across entire Russia except for South-West, so it's not hard to find an abandoned house. It would lack glass and some floors whould probably have been cut for (fire)wood, but if you have an axe/saw, a temporary fix isn't hard. Then, you can scavenge glass and plywood from other houses to fix windows. In such villages there's no bureaucrat around to be bothered by this.