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Isn’t that subjective too? I don’t worship Bezos but I like Bill Gates and Elon. Like I said you’re comparing apples to oranges there’s no comparison between El

Isn’t that subjective too? I don’t worship Bezos but I like Bill Gates and Elon. Like I said you’re comparing apples to oranges there’s no comparison between Elon and Oprah and Lady Gaga besides “they have a lot of followers and money”. How they did it is different and only Elon would be in the startup context. I mean Steven Hawking, Neil Degrasse Tyson, Higgs, Tim Berners Lee, etc are all “worshipped as successful” by many people since they’re popular and well known. In my circle of casual science fans (we aren't scientists) we worship these people because we like science. Success leads to money. Unless you’re in a commie country where it might lead to gulag lol.

cratermoon 4y ago
> Success leads to money. Unless you’re in a commie country where it might lead to gulag lol. Thank you for your analysis. It is both penetrating and diffuse.
- moomoo11 4y ago
  Am I wrong?
  - cratermoon 4y ago
    If someone doesn't make money, they aren't successful? That's how I read it. Which leaves open the question, are there three people who didn't make money yet who are broadly considered successful enough to attract worshippers from among the general population? If so, what makes them successful, if not net worth?
    - moomoo11 4y ago
      No I was saying that at least in capitalist western countries like the USA usually if you’re good at something and successful at it, the result is a lot of money. I’m a software engineer and I’d say I’m pretty good considering I always rank in the top 10%, so it makes sense to me that I’m paid a lot of money. I’m starting a company and I plan on doing my best to succeed on it. If I do, my success will lead to money. What I’m trying to say (esl so it’s hard for me maybe to convey) is that money is a side effect of being successful aka being good at something.

cratermoon 4y ago

> Success leads to money. Unless you’re in a commie country where it might lead to gulag lol. Thank you for your analysis. It is both penetrating and diffuse.

moomoo11 4y ago
Am I wrong?
- cratermoon 4y ago
  If someone doesn't make money, they aren't successful? That's how I read it. Which leaves open the question, are there three people who didn't make money yet who are broadly considered successful enough to attract worshippers from among the general population? If so, what makes them successful, if not net worth?
  - moomoo11 4y ago
    No I was saying that at least in capitalist western countries like the USA usually if you’re good at something and successful at it, the result is a lot of money. I’m a software engineer and I’d say I’m pretty good considering I always rank in the top 10%, so it makes sense to me that I’m paid a lot of money. I’m starting a company and I plan on doing my best to succeed on it. If I do, my success will lead to money. What I’m trying to say (esl so it’s hard for me maybe to convey) is that money is a side effect of being successful aka being good at something.