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I can certainly understand the need to enjoy life, but it does feel obscene to spend that much on yachts. Money is power and power comes with moral responsibil
by kubb 4y ago
I can certainly understand the need to enjoy life, but it does feel obscene to spend that much on yachts.
Money is power and power comes with moral responsibility. I think that's why the Gates' started that foundation.
For many people it's easier to feel good about having so much if you can claim that you're using it for good.
- roncesvalles 4y ago>Money is power and power comes with moral responsibility. I don't know if I agree with that. Are they actually qualified to be wielding that much power? Maybe it's better to just let them spend it on personal luxury or passive philanthropy than to have them start twiddling society's levers just because they have a strong urge to "do something".
- thundergolfer 4y agoYou think directing your massive fortune towards spending on luxury goods isn't in itself "twiddling society's levers"?
- kubb 4y agoYeah, you don't build a yacht in isolation, you need labor, resources, it has a cultural and environmental impact. Whatever you do with so much dough is gonna have consequences, there's no staying neutral.
- roncesvalles 4y agoIt's not the same because it's within the bounds of what the economy "wants" you to do. It's an option that's available, instead of modifying the fabric of society to create an option that was previously unimaginable.
- thundergolfer 4y agoI think that's a completely broken idea of how an economy works. There's no neutral position where your cooperating with an economy "wants".
- kubb 4y agoThey're not qualified, but they wield it anyway.
- PoignardAzur 4y agoBillions of dollars are billions of dollars that could be spent building schools, housing the homeless, feeding starving people, etc. Saying that it's better that these people starve, freeze and die because of a vague fear that Man shouldn't meddle with certain things and spending on personal luxury and yachts is the better option seems like philosophical lazyness.
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- roncesvalles 4y agoOr doing Koch Brothers stuff.
- Terretta 4y agoDon't think of it as spending on yachts. Think of it as make-work income for inner city shipyard workers, metal workers, and countless other legacy professions. At the end of the day, the guy doesn't have the money any more, they all do. So they're happy, and he has a boat.
- satvikpendem 4y agoIndeed, money spent drives economies. Money not spent is simply wasted. One reason why people advocate for more taxes for the rich is to make sure that the money circulates in an economy and thus progress society.
- throwawayxx123 4y agoBut taxes goes into govt and its inefficiencies rather than into economy
- alexklarjr 4y agoGates had started their foundation to transfer the assets to children without paying estate tax.
- boeingUH60 4y agoTheory doesn't make any sense, if he wanted to transfer assets to his children, he'll just do that directly rather than start a foundation that has disbursed $66 billion in grants [1]. Note that I'm not saying Gates is a good guy and doesn't use his foundation to exert influence. But, saying he started a foundation to transfer assets while dodging estate tax reeks of "they just write it off...". Wouldn't he have been better off handing over that $66 billion to his children and paying 18% to 40% as taxes? 1- https://www.gatesfoundation.org/about/foundation-fact-sheet https://www.gatesfoundation.org/about/foundation-fact-sheet