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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_motor_vehicle_production https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_motor_v... Not really, Mexic

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_motor_vehicle_production https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_motor_v... Not really, Mexico made three times as many cars as the UK in 2021. You named many companies, I'll ignore their foreign ownership, but Lotus, London Taxi ,Jaguar, and Aston are low volume

pjc50 4y ago
Notice how the UK tends to have "high value low volume" car industries, and/or car industries with foreign management? I have a theory that this is the legacy of the industrial relations disaster of the past decades. British management + British workers = far more class strife than an overseas owner that just want to make cars and not conduct class warfare against its own staff. Less prevalent in small companies (under Dunbar's number) because people can know one another as people.
- simonbarker87 4y ago
  I don’t think it’s class strife that caused it, most management on site is British. In reality it’s just about where the money is globally and where conglomerates who are willing to buy car companies are in the world.
simonbarker87 4y ago
Calling JLR low volume seems odd given they produce over 500,000 cars a year. I also never said that it was the largest automotive manufacturer in the world, just that it was a large sector in the UK, which it measurably is. Aston isn’t owned by an international firm, they have heavy Daimler investment but for all intents and purposes they are independent (although I can’t see it staying that way for long they desperately need the weight of a larger firm backing them - like Lotus has)
rowanajmarshall 4y ago
> Not really, Mexico made three times as many cars as the UK in 2021. I completely agree the UK focuses more on low-volume, high-value automotive, bit looking at that table UK car production has more than halved since the Brexit referendum went through. The hollowing out of the UK car industry is a very recent phenomena.
- simonbarker87 4y ago
  Given that world wide production is down but 15 million vehicles (nearly 20%) I wouldn’t read too much into it. JLR have had enormous supply chain issues and Nissan is in a model transition on Qashqai (which alone has previously accounted for over 400k vehicles per year)

pjc50 4y ago

Notice how the UK tends to have "high value low volume" car industries, and/or car industries with foreign management? I have a theory that this is the legacy of the industrial relations disaster of the past decades. British management + British workers = far more class strife than an overseas owner that just want to make cars and not conduct class warfare against its own staff. Less prevalent in small companies (under Dunbar's number) because people can know one another as people.

simonbarker87 4y ago
I don’t think it’s class strife that caused it, most management on site is British. In reality it’s just about where the money is globally and where conglomerates who are willing to buy car companies are in the world.

simonbarker87 4y ago

Calling JLR low volume seems odd given they produce over 500,000 cars a year. I also never said that it was the largest automotive manufacturer in the world, just that it was a large sector in the UK, which it measurably is. Aston isn’t owned by an international firm, they have heavy Daimler investment but for all intents and purposes they are independent (although I can’t see it staying that way for long they desperately need the weight of a larger firm backing them - like Lotus has)

rowanajmarshall 4y ago

> Not really, Mexico made three times as many cars as the UK in 2021. I completely agree the UK focuses more on low-volume, high-value automotive, bit looking at that table UK car production has more than halved since the Brexit referendum went through. The hollowing out of the UK car industry is a very recent phenomena.

simonbarker87 4y ago
Given that world wide production is down but 15 million vehicles (nearly 20%) I wouldn’t read too much into it. JLR have had enormous supply chain issues and Nissan is in a model transition on Qashqai (which alone has previously accounted for over 400k vehicles per year)