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This is somewhat misleading given the history of java and oracles aggressive nature This applies to java runetime client from Oracle. Which to most users is "j

This is somewhat misleading given the history of java and oracles aggressive nature This applies to java runetime client from Oracle. Which to most users is "java". If something requires java most people used to be directed to install javase not openjdk Today if any user of the business downloaded java se from Oracle it triggers and aggressive and often threatening sales process from Oracle Given that Java SE was Java to most people I think it gives a false impression to say "This is only for the commercial version" even if technically correct

kaba0 4y ago
> This applies to java runetime client from Oracle. Which to most users is "java You are late by a few years. There is no JRE anymore, you are supposed to either use a JDK (e.g. for development) or bundle a small, optimized version of the JDK specifically for your app (see jlink, jpackage for more information).
- phpisthebest 4y ago
  That is good for new development, but if you are doing new development i have to wonder about your sanity if you are choosing java in the first place. I mainly support java apps that have not been developed in decades
  - kaba0 4y ago
    > i have to wonder about your sanity if you are choosing java in the first place On what basis do you say that?
xmcqdpt2 4y ago
This is why many companies (including both my current job and pay employer) block the oracle download pages internally.
pjmlp 4y ago
Sun used to charge for legacy JDKs and support as well. The Java runtime (JRE) is dead since Java 9, you are supposed to create a custom one with jlink.
- phpisthebest 4y ago
  Well tell that to all the legacy enterprise gear I have to support from network switches, lpt printer servers, storage appliance's, etc
  - pjmlp 4y ago
    That is what Oracle is doing by asking for lots of green paper, time to move on or pay to keep using legacy stuff.
system5 4y ago
Google and other search engines can (silencely) put OpenJDKs above javase in the result and we can advocate educators and textbook writers to recommend openjdk (at least point out the difference between the both JDKs) when teaching java to others

kaba0 4y ago

> This applies to java runetime client from Oracle. Which to most users is "java You are late by a few years. There is no JRE anymore, you are supposed to either use a JDK (e.g. for development) or bundle a small, optimized version of the JDK specifically for your app (see jlink, jpackage for more information).

phpisthebest 4y ago
That is good for new development, but if you are doing new development i have to wonder about your sanity if you are choosing java in the first place. I mainly support java apps that have not been developed in decades
- kaba0 4y ago
  > i have to wonder about your sanity if you are choosing java in the first place On what basis do you say that?

xmcqdpt2 4y ago

This is why many companies (including both my current job and pay employer) block the oracle download pages internally.

pjmlp 4y ago

Sun used to charge for legacy JDKs and support as well. The Java runtime (JRE) is dead since Java 9, you are supposed to create a custom one with jlink.

phpisthebest 4y ago
Well tell that to all the legacy enterprise gear I have to support from network switches, lpt printer servers, storage appliance's, etc
- pjmlp 4y ago
  That is what Oracle is doing by asking for lots of green paper, time to move on or pay to keep using legacy stuff.

system5 4y ago

Google and other search engines can (silencely) put OpenJDKs above javase in the result and we can advocate educators and textbook writers to recommend openjdk (at least point out the difference between the both JDKs) when teaching java to others