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https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/2015/01/user-agreement/index.htm https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/2015/01/user-agreement/i... > By transmitting any Comm

https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/2015/01/user-agreement/index.htm https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/2015/01/user-agreement/i... > By transmitting any Communication to the Site, you grant CR an irrevocable, non-exclusive, worldwide, perpetual, unrestricted, royalty-free license (with the right to sublicense) to use, reproduce, distribute, publicly display, publicly perform, modify, edit, create derivative works from, incorporate into one or more compilations and reproduce and distribute such compilations, and otherwise exploit such Communications, together with any personal information transmitted with your Communications (such as name, user name and photograph), in all formats and in all media now known or later developed. > You acknowledge and agree that any Communications made to or by means of any Site Tool are public and you have no expectation of privacy in any such Communication. No confidential, fiduciary, contractually implied or other relationship is created between you and CR by reason of your transmitting a Communication to any Site Tool. There has to be a narrower way to draw up this agreement.

Terretta 4y ago
This means (a) their comment pages can incorporate your comments and mini bio to show on their comment pages, and (b) the Internet is not private. They have bad lawyers and bad Chief Legal Officer for allowing this boilerplate in an agreement for an app like this, but these two clauses are less nefarious than they sound. Technically your writings are copyright by you, so this pairing lets them do whatever with your comments, and display them to others without you coming after them for something.
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- landemva 4y ago
  > Chief Legal Officer Since around 2008 I notice everyone is an officer. There was a specific meaning of officer, and now it is big-shot-ism.
  - thrwawy74 4y ago
    I'm imagining within any group of legal experts there's disagreement on how to approach risk/liability and manage it, if it is unavoidable. You need a dictator :) The parent is probably right: Not a nefarious agreement, but it is some kind of irony that the service exists to help expunge your digital existence in many places and they have you agreeing to use your commentary (satisfaction?) as a means to market themselves. If you were so happy with their service, I wish you could submit testimony in an explicit area of their site. I left an earlier comment and erased it: I'm not a fan of "implicit" we-can-use-anything-you-do agreements. I wish it were more transactional. That's why this service could be fantastic: It's alienating and exhausting to live in the digital public where every influencer/company wants to use your existence for monetary gain.
stuaxo 4y ago
This could do with being moved to plain English.

Terretta 4y ago

This means (a) their comment pages can incorporate your comments and mini bio to show on their comment pages, and (b) the Internet is not private. They have bad lawyers and bad Chief Legal Officer for allowing this boilerplate in an agreement for an app like this, but these two clauses are less nefarious than they sound. Technically your writings are copyright by you, so this pairing lets them do whatever with your comments, and display them to others without you coming after them for something.

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landemva 4y ago
> Chief Legal Officer Since around 2008 I notice everyone is an officer. There was a specific meaning of officer, and now it is big-shot-ism.
- thrwawy74 4y ago
  I'm imagining within any group of legal experts there's disagreement on how to approach risk/liability and manage it, if it is unavoidable. You need a dictator :) The parent is probably right: Not a nefarious agreement, but it is some kind of irony that the service exists to help expunge your digital existence in many places and they have you agreeing to use your commentary (satisfaction?) as a means to market themselves. If you were so happy with their service, I wish you could submit testimony in an explicit area of their site. I left an earlier comment and erased it: I'm not a fan of "implicit" we-can-use-anything-you-do agreements. I wish it were more transactional. That's why this service could be fantastic: It's alienating and exhausting to live in the digital public where every influencer/company wants to use your existence for monetary gain.

stuaxo 4y ago

This could do with being moved to plain English.