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Will the batteries be interchangeable between different car brands? I doubt it.

Schroedingersat 4y ago
Dozens of different makes and models already use the gogoro system. Most of the world isn't allergic to standardizing like the US.
- HyperSane 4y ago
  We are talking about the huge 100+ range batteries like in Teslas. I really don't see these being practical to swap.
  - Schroedingersat 4y ago
    No. We're not. We're talking about practical charging ability for people in apartments. If a government is too incompetent to enforce charger installation in indoor parking of rentals, light pole and meter charging is impossible, and adding 1kW of solar panels to the car itself isn't sufficient for daily use due to weather, then simply adding 2 3.5kWh battery slots in addition to whatever internal battery the car has is a trivial way of adding 70km of range that can be swapped at a moment's notice. Your inability to imagine anything other than the laziest most spoiled american's habits (even when alternatives are easier) doesn't invalidate the huge space of other solutions. If all of those don't work for some reason, then just treating it like an ICE and usingthe 250kW fast chager is only an extra 15 minutes once every week or two.
  - tuatoru 4y ago
    Luxury car owners gonna lux. This is about cars for the mass market - "the next billion vehicles", as Ample says.
klyrs 4y ago
I, too, doubt that car companies would collaborate on their own. But this is a problem that California or the European Union could solve with the stroke of a pen.
TheLoafOfBread 4y ago
So you will buy an expensive BEV and then throw away the new battery so you can play lottery with used ones. It is not appealing even to users.
- tuatoru 4y ago
  You will buy a cheap EV, because the battery is not included in the price.
  - HyperSane 4y ago
    Who will be paying for them them?
    - tuatoru 4y ago
      You will, just not as a lump sum. A part of the battery's cost (1/2000 or 1/4000 or whatever) will be integrated into the battery swap charge. This is how things work for poors. They don't have access to lots of credit, so a car that costs $15K less is good, and they are used to whatever a tank of gas costs, and will pay that. Again, this is the mass market, the next billion drivers/families. You're well down the income ladder at that point.
tuatoru 4y ago
Ample is working with manufacturers 1. https://ample.com/ https://ample.com/

Dozens of different makes and models already use the gogoro system. Most of the world isn't allergic to standardizing like the US.

HyperSane 4y ago
We are talking about the huge 100+ range batteries like in Teslas. I really don't see these being practical to swap.
- Schroedingersat 4y ago
  No. We're not. We're talking about practical charging ability for people in apartments. If a government is too incompetent to enforce charger installation in indoor parking of rentals, light pole and meter charging is impossible, and adding 1kW of solar panels to the car itself isn't sufficient for daily use due to weather, then simply adding 2 3.5kWh battery slots in addition to whatever internal battery the car has is a trivial way of adding 70km of range that can be swapped at a moment's notice. Your inability to imagine anything other than the laziest most spoiled american's habits (even when alternatives are easier) doesn't invalidate the huge space of other solutions. If all of those don't work for some reason, then just treating it like an ICE and usingthe 250kW fast chager is only an extra 15 minutes once every week or two.
- tuatoru 4y ago
  Luxury car owners gonna lux. This is about cars for the mass market - "the next billion vehicles", as Ample says.

klyrs 4y ago

I, too, doubt that car companies would collaborate on their own. But this is a problem that California or the European Union could solve with the stroke of a pen.

TheLoafOfBread 4y ago

So you will buy an expensive BEV and then throw away the new battery so you can play lottery with used ones. It is not appealing even to users.

tuatoru 4y ago
You will buy a cheap EV, because the battery is not included in the price.
- HyperSane 4y ago
  Who will be paying for them them?
  - tuatoru 4y ago
    You will, just not as a lump sum. A part of the battery's cost (1/2000 or 1/4000 or whatever) will be integrated into the battery swap charge. This is how things work for poors. They don't have access to lots of credit, so a car that costs $15K less is good, and they are used to whatever a tank of gas costs, and will pay that. Again, this is the mass market, the next billion drivers/families. You're well down the income ladder at that point.

tuatoru 4y ago

Ample is working with manufacturers 1. https://ample.com/ https://ample.com/