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> Basically road rage murders increased a lot in 2021 and 2020 and all over the country it seems. These incidents are a tiny tiny fraction of all non-accidenta

by lucb1e 4y ago

> Basically road rage murders increased a lot in 2021 and 2020 and all over the country it seems. These incidents are a tiny tiny fraction of all non-accidental injuries or unnatural deaths occurring. Yes it went up, yes you should pay attention and fix it if reasonably possible. But again: keep it in perspective. Singling out a metric that went up while, say, the total burden of disease (on the scale of comparing to other countries and across decades) essentially stayed the same[1] and... okay honestly I'm having trouble finding a metric where the USA improved over the last years (or, if 2021+ data is not yet available, even the last decade). Still, not sure that means things are suddenly bad. OP's sentiment and a lot of this thread is that the world is going to shit, which is objectively not true if the USA maintains its quality of life and not-so-wealthy/healthy places are continuously improving. [1] https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/dalys-rate-from-all-causes?tab=chart&country=USA~NLD~AFG~CHN~BRA~ARG https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/dalys-rate-from-all-cause...

onetimeusename 4y ago
ah ok not sure about going to shit, I probably wouldn't say that, so I don't agree with OP that things have gone to shit. I don't feel that way. I do think road safety worsened slightly but it's not Mad Max bad and I think eventually it will revert to the mean hopefully. Yes, it's a small increase in a long term decline of road deaths and I haven't seen second half of 2022 data yet but my last understanding was that traffic fatality may have peaked in 2022, idk. It's too early to tell and people might not care a year from now if things improve. I should have been more clear about what my position was because yes a lot of things worsened and are much higher concerns than road safety and it's definitely not a major issue but I just happen to be following it. It's just a temporary thing I imagine. But I do want to warn people just to be slightly more careful. But I am fascinated by some of the data because there has never been a lockdown before and I am curious if it affected driving. It could have implications for traffic safety, road design, and traffic shaping. I should've avoided any other implication.

by lucb1e 4y ago

onetimeusename 4y ago

ah ok not sure about going to shit, I probably wouldn't say that, so I don't agree with OP that things have gone to shit. I don't feel that way. I do think road safety worsened slightly but it's not Mad Max bad and I think eventually it will revert to the mean hopefully. Yes, it's a small increase in a long term decline of road deaths and I haven't seen second half of 2022 data yet but my last understanding was that traffic fatality may have peaked in 2022, idk. It's too early to tell and people might not care a year from now if things improve. I should have been more clear about what my position was because yes a lot of things worsened and are much higher concerns than road safety and it's definitely not a major issue but I just happen to be following it. It's just a temporary thing I imagine. But I do want to warn people just to be slightly more careful. But I am fascinated by some of the data because there has never been a lockdown before and I am curious if it affected driving. It could have implications for traffic safety, road design, and traffic shaping. I should've avoided any other implication.