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Yeah, I wish I could agree with the grandparent, but "child safety" is a very effective cheat code for bypassing reasoning because the harms (dead kid!) are imm
by livueta 4y ago
Yeah, I wish I could agree with the grandparent, but "child safety" is a very effective cheat code for bypassing reasoning because the harms (dead kid!) are immediate, concrete and visceral, while the benefits of not are way more abstract. How do you even begin to quantify the psychological impact of total surveillance? In such a liability-centric culture, it's easy to see why the cards fall as they do.
I was listening to a 90s era George Carlin show on a long car ride recently and during a bit about the nation's budding obsession with child safety, he said something I found kinda poignant in the context of the ongoing youth mental health crisis (n.b. predates the pandemic by a lot): "we've sucked all the fun out of being a kid just to save a few thousand lives." Amid all the discussions of the apparent relationship between helicopter parents and neurotic, depressed kids, I think it's pretty reasonable to consider whether the sum total of "dangerous fun" deaths/ruined lives - lawn darts, pellet guns, fireworks, pedo van, tall swingsets, etc - exceeds the harm inflicted by that bubble-wrap outlook on life. I'd argue probably not.
While reading tfa, I had the same thought regarding the company's claim of suicides prevented. Even if you take it at face value (which I don't; like, come on, there's no way they've demonstrated that with any degree of rigor), is the tradeoff worthwhile? I'd argue probably not, but don't know how to do that in a way that wouldn't get me called a monster at a school board meeting.
- arrosenberg 4y agoIt's yet another example of locally rational and globally irrational. 100 years ago you would have 5-10 kids and if one or two died, such is life. Today most families are 1-2 kids - the level of investment and risk is much more concentrated. It may be bad for kids generally, but each parent is (in a way) making a rational choice for their individual kid.
- jacquesm 4y agoPeople had that many children here in NL because of religious influence (= more souls for the church) and because they would lose one or two of them, almost guaranteed. It wasn't a matter of 'if'. Reduced influence of the church + much better medical understanding and vaccination for a lot of the infant killers as well as increased affluence has caused people to start having children later which already cuts off a whole chunk of offspring and fewer.
- makeitdouble 4y ago100 years ago was also around the two World Wars, and losing all of your 5-10 kids would widely happen. It wasn’t just kids, people dying was just part of life.
- drewcoo 4y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sullivan_brothers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sullivan_brothers