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There was the guy who won the NASCAR race using the trick he learned on the GameCube NASCAR game. The trick was to make the last turn skidding against the oute

There was the guy who won the NASCAR race using the trick he learned on the GameCube NASCAR game. The trick was to make the last turn skidding against the outer wall with the car floored and pass everyone. Enders game is probably obsolete since AlphaGo zero can play better than any human. Just have the AI reinforcement learn over the course of a trillion games in the simulator.

metadat 4y ago
Here's a clip of it: https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1586836220176629760 https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/158683622017662976...
LorenPechtel 4y ago
The book version AlphaGo wouldn't have a chance at. The whole thing was a setup to get a very skilled person in charge who didn't know what was going on and would break the rules and rebel at the key time. Firing upon the planet was genocide and anyone who could give that order was inherently unsuitable for the role they must play. At the same time, it was a completely hopeless battle in which the only possible "victory" was a suicide charge against the planet (in the book the planet goes boom and take the fleet with it. It's gone, not merely a charred ruin.) Hence one person kept in the dark and carefully prepared to be utterly ruthless at those who have attacked him (not his opponents in battle school--that's competition. He murdered (although he doesn't know they died) IIRC two bullies before the events we see in the movie) with the intent of getting him to fire on the planet. AlphaGo would see firing upon the planet (or even at a target too close to it) as against the rules and wouldn't do it. Ender believed he had flunked out until he learned what really happened.
joshspankit 4y ago
The thing that surprised me the most is that despite people doing that in video games for (decades feels right) he was the first irl.
- _0ffh 4y ago
  I've read the claim that a couple of people have tried it before, in smaller settings (not NASCAR), but didn't actually pull it off.

metadat 4y ago

Here's a clip of it: https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1586836220176629760 https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/158683622017662976...

LorenPechtel 4y ago

The book version AlphaGo wouldn't have a chance at. The whole thing was a setup to get a very skilled person in charge who didn't know what was going on and would break the rules and rebel at the key time. Firing upon the planet was genocide and anyone who could give that order was inherently unsuitable for the role they must play. At the same time, it was a completely hopeless battle in which the only possible "victory" was a suicide charge against the planet (in the book the planet goes boom and take the fleet with it. It's gone, not merely a charred ruin.) Hence one person kept in the dark and carefully prepared to be utterly ruthless at those who have attacked him (not his opponents in battle school--that's competition. He murdered (although he doesn't know they died) IIRC two bullies before the events we see in the movie) with the intent of getting him to fire on the planet. AlphaGo would see firing upon the planet (or even at a target too close to it) as against the rules and wouldn't do it. Ender believed he had flunked out until he learned what really happened.

joshspankit 4y ago

The thing that surprised me the most is that despite people doing that in video games for (decades feels right) he was the first irl.

_0ffh 4y ago
I've read the claim that a couple of people have tried it before, in smaller settings (not NASCAR), but didn't actually pull it off.