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There are some pretty clear indications that the derivative of civilization is strongly negative at the moment, particularly if you live in Europe. Actually, t

There are some pretty clear indications that the derivative of civilization is strongly negative at the moment, particularly if you live in Europe. Actually, the fact that people are supposed to pretend things are OK, while everyone over there is possibly a few steps away from being drafted into war, is another sign that things have headed in the wrong direction in exactly the manner OP is suggesting.

pjam 4y ago
What are these clear indications (beside the potential draft point)?
davedx 4y ago
“Everyone” in Europe is definitely not a few steps from being drafted into war. This is ridiculous polemics.
- courgette 4y ago
  Also, what a fun draft that would be. What Western Europe country could realistically support and train a large uptick in reluctant new recruits? You need a backbone of experienced military professional and infrastructure to do that ( eg : France used to have a lot of military center to host / train people. Those have been abandoned in the late 90s )
AndreasHae 4y ago
> everyone over there is possibly a few steps away from being drafted into war Why do you think so? Might be different in Eastern Europe, but as a Central European I think it’s quite unlikely that a direct conflict is going to happen.
- cudgy 4y ago
  There already is a direct conflict. Wake up and get your head out of the sand.
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ginvok 4y ago
Uh, no? This is definitely an outside perspective.
pjc50 4y ago
There was a huge negative spike around the invasion, but the bigger effect has been the rapid rise in fuel prices. Russia are now clearly losing and Russia is in less of a position to threaten. Nobody in UK discourse is talking about conscription. Mind you, UK political discourse has gone increasingly off the rails with trying not to deal with corruption and incompetence of Tories.
- geysersam 4y ago
  Is Russia clearly loosing? I hope so. But I'm not so sure. They didn't win immediately like they thought they would. But long term they might have better chance than Ukraine to win a war of attrition. (If murdering 100000s people and conquering ruined cities can be called "winning".) Read [1] recently and it paints an bleaker picture than some other analyses. https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukrai...
  - doktrin 4y ago
    This might be of interest to you : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deK98IeTjfY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deK98IeTjfY It's a video essay on ammunition stockpiles on Ukraine and Russia by the youtuber Perun. It doesn't paint a rosy picture per se, but it does directly refute at least a few of the points made by the author of the RM blog you linked.

pjam 4y ago

What are these clear indications (beside the potential draft point)?

davedx 4y ago

“Everyone” in Europe is definitely not a few steps from being drafted into war. This is ridiculous polemics.

courgette 4y ago
Also, what a fun draft that would be. What Western Europe country could realistically support and train a large uptick in reluctant new recruits? You need a backbone of experienced military professional and infrastructure to do that ( eg : France used to have a lot of military center to host / train people. Those have been abandoned in the late 90s )

AndreasHae 4y ago

> everyone over there is possibly a few steps away from being drafted into war Why do you think so? Might be different in Eastern Europe, but as a Central European I think it’s quite unlikely that a direct conflict is going to happen.

cudgy 4y ago
There already is a direct conflict. Wake up and get your head out of the sand.

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ginvok 4y ago

Uh, no? This is definitely an outside perspective.

pjc50 4y ago

There was a huge negative spike around the invasion, but the bigger effect has been the rapid rise in fuel prices. Russia are now clearly losing and Russia is in less of a position to threaten. Nobody in UK discourse is talking about conscription. Mind you, UK political discourse has gone increasingly off the rails with trying not to deal with corruption and incompetence of Tories.

geysersam 4y ago
Is Russia clearly loosing? I hope so. But I'm not so sure. They didn't win immediately like they thought they would. But long term they might have better chance than Ukraine to win a war of attrition. (If murdering 100000s people and conquering ruined cities can be called "winning".) Read [1] recently and it paints an bleaker picture than some other analyses. https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukrai...
- doktrin 4y ago
  This might be of interest to you : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deK98IeTjfY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deK98IeTjfY It's a video essay on ammunition stockpiles on Ukraine and Russia by the youtuber Perun. It doesn't paint a rosy picture per se, but it does directly refute at least a few of the points made by the author of the RM blog you linked.