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A: It feels like society is declining, am I alone in seeing it? Tons of replies: No, we see it too in X, Y, Z ways as well. B: <Specific example highlighting
by MonkeyMalarky 4y ago
A: It feels like society is declining, am I alone in seeing it?
Tons of replies: No, we see it too in X, Y, Z ways as well.
B: <Specific example highlighting said decline>
C: The decline isn't real, people abdicating their responsibilities totally isn't a problem, life has always been shite so quit complaining
Sorry, that's just what I see when you reply with:
>Clean drinking water in cities isn't the default state of affairs
Honestly, I'd say you are gaslighting here because you're trying to convince people that regressing from forward progress isn't a loss. Also, cities and civilization aren't the default state of affairs. There's millennia more of prehistoric time where humans lived in the unforgiving wilderness. Are you suggesting that we are not allowed complain until we're back to living nomadic lives, hunting wild game on the steppes? Like you said, anything better than that isn't the default state of affairs.
- acyou 4y agoDepends on your definition of regression and forward progress. Water in cities isn't basic, it's a difficult problem to solve. It can be so easy to point the finger and say people are abdicating their responsibilities, while offering zero solutions. If you define exponential population growth as forward progress, for instance. Or the status quo of watershed draw and depletion as "forward progress". It has worked well for decades and isn't working anymore. Just because the aquifers are running low does not mean anyone is particularly to blame, or that we have "regressed".