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Yeah and we developed the most efficient graphene nanotube batteries that never degrade!! Sorry, I'm not buying it anymore. More than likely, none of that is g

by mouse_ 4y ago

Yeah and we developed the most efficient graphene nanotube batteries that never degrade!! Sorry, I'm not buying it anymore. More than likely, none of that is going to help me or anyone I know from struggling just a little more each year.

bboygravity 4y ago
This makes 0 sense to me.
- lbotos 4y ago
  They are arguing that "the system" changing would be more helpful to them and their friends than "technological advancement". As the meme goes, ¿Porque no lo dos?
- eldritch_4ier 4y ago
  TL;DR Sure tech progress is cool, but it's hard to care when I feel more isolated from my community than ever, the world feels "angry", and in many important ways my life feels much worse off than just a few years ago. The meme about "but living standards doubling every X years!" is little comfort when you can't feel any of those impacts - not to mention that the material is scarcely the only thing that matters for human happiness.
  - somethoughts 4y ago
    I think the challenge is that the doubling of life standards is happening for people at the bottom of Maslow's hierarchy of needs (i.e. basic survival to a comfortable life). Most of the HN audience is likely at self-actualization stage where its going to be hard for society to help double life standards when every one's such standard is decided in such a deeply personal way for each individual. [1] It's also going to be really hard to measure progress on this front at a societal level. [1] The importance of Maslow's hierarchy of needs https://www.theschooloflife.com/article/the-importance-of-maslows-pyramid-of-needs/ https://www.theschooloflife.com/article/the-importance-of-ma... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0PKWTta7lU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0PKWTta7lU
  - winternett 4y ago
    It also very much feels like any advancements in tech for the future will also only be accessible to wealthy people... As living costs are skyrocketing daily at the whim of overpaid and callous executives everywhere worldwide.
maerF0x0 4y ago
I hear what you're saying. Things are improving, but what share do I have in it? Another angle is if I struggle and work hard, what rewards accrue to others, and what do I get in return? The ROI on effort seems to be dwindling cause fakes are crowding out the real hard workers. And the buyers (ie wealthy investors) cant seem to tell the difference between expertise and bald faced lies. (I blame social media and rise of influencers for this, a bunch of fancy graphics and a iphone and now you know the 1 real secret the life long scientists have been holding back to our fatloss/clear pores/million dollar a month business).. Then again it was the missteps of institutions that even gave influencers their chance (a little lack of integrity ruins it for all)
- somethoughts 4y ago
  A mind shift (that might help) is to realize that if you have a 401K or IRA or pension - which if you are on HN you have at likely at least have some modicum amount likely - then you are an indirect beneficiary by these profit seeking moves. From the distribution chart it seems most of the US stock market is owned via IRAs/401Ks/defined benefits and insurance versus individual accounts. [1] Those evil corporate landlords that drive up rents? Well, likely they are acting on behalf of former hardworking teachers of Canada. Sure there is skimming involved but a bulk is going toward to teacher's retirement. [2] Of course mileage may vary whether this helps how one feels. [1] https://i.insider.com/5746013852bcd044008c527e?width=1200format=jpeg&auto=webp https://i.insider.com/5746013852bcd044008c527e?width=1200for... [2] Why Canada’s Teachers Run an Investment Firm in Singapore https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HXcT_xlLB0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HXcT_xlLB0
  - maerF0x0 4y ago
    That's also a good point. Boomers legislated themselves to a bunch of entitlements at my expense, whilst simultaneously cutting any sort of good for my (and subsequent) generations.

by mouse_ 4y ago

bboygravity 4y ago

This makes 0 sense to me.

lbotos 4y ago
They are arguing that "the system" changing would be more helpful to them and their friends than "technological advancement". As the meme goes, ¿Porque no lo dos?
eldritch_4ier 4y ago
TL;DR Sure tech progress is cool, but it's hard to care when I feel more isolated from my community than ever, the world feels "angry", and in many important ways my life feels much worse off than just a few years ago. The meme about "but living standards doubling every X years!" is little comfort when you can't feel any of those impacts - not to mention that the material is scarcely the only thing that matters for human happiness.
- somethoughts 4y ago
  I think the challenge is that the doubling of life standards is happening for people at the bottom of Maslow's hierarchy of needs (i.e. basic survival to a comfortable life). Most of the HN audience is likely at self-actualization stage where its going to be hard for society to help double life standards when every one's such standard is decided in such a deeply personal way for each individual. [1] It's also going to be really hard to measure progress on this front at a societal level. [1] The importance of Maslow's hierarchy of needs https://www.theschooloflife.com/article/the-importance-of-maslows-pyramid-of-needs/ https://www.theschooloflife.com/article/the-importance-of-ma... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0PKWTta7lU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0PKWTta7lU
- winternett 4y ago
  It also very much feels like any advancements in tech for the future will also only be accessible to wealthy people... As living costs are skyrocketing daily at the whim of overpaid and callous executives everywhere worldwide.

maerF0x0 4y ago

I hear what you're saying. Things are improving, but what share do I have in it? Another angle is if I struggle and work hard, what rewards accrue to others, and what do I get in return? The ROI on effort seems to be dwindling cause fakes are crowding out the real hard workers. And the buyers (ie wealthy investors) cant seem to tell the difference between expertise and bald faced lies. (I blame social media and rise of influencers for this, a bunch of fancy graphics and a iphone and now you know the 1 real secret the life long scientists have been holding back to our fatloss/clear pores/million dollar a month business).. Then again it was the missteps of institutions that even gave influencers their chance (a little lack of integrity ruins it for all)

somethoughts 4y ago
A mind shift (that might help) is to realize that if you have a 401K or IRA or pension - which if you are on HN you have at likely at least have some modicum amount likely - then you are an indirect beneficiary by these profit seeking moves. From the distribution chart it seems most of the US stock market is owned via IRAs/401Ks/defined benefits and insurance versus individual accounts. [1] Those evil corporate landlords that drive up rents? Well, likely they are acting on behalf of former hardworking teachers of Canada. Sure there is skimming involved but a bulk is going toward to teacher's retirement. [2] Of course mileage may vary whether this helps how one feels. [1] https://i.insider.com/5746013852bcd044008c527e?width=1200format=jpeg&auto=webp https://i.insider.com/5746013852bcd044008c527e?width=1200for... [2] Why Canada’s Teachers Run an Investment Firm in Singapore https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HXcT_xlLB0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HXcT_xlLB0
- maerF0x0 4y ago
  That's also a good point. Boomers legislated themselves to a bunch of entitlements at my expense, whilst simultaneously cutting any sort of good for my (and subsequent) generations.