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But how far do you go? Using that approach, people 100 years ago wearing a suit and tie and a hat would probably want to ban what we wear today, on the grounds
by adrianmsmith 4y ago
But how far do you go? Using that approach, people 100 years ago wearing a suit and tie and a hat would probably want to ban what we wear today, on the grounds of broken glass theory. Yet we are (I presume) law abiding citizens here, etc.
- eldritch_4ier 4y agoIt's really not that intellectual or complicated. Just don't dress like a bum in public? Not everything needs a theorem or rigorous, tested, scientifically researched set of rules. Nobody is asking you to walk around in a 3 piece suit, there is no slippery slope or conspiracy theory here, it's just "dress like you give a shit about the public space and others in it".
- meheleventyone 4y agoBut that’s a subjective criteria and one that’s obviously ripe for subversion. What about people’s right to freedom of expression?
- noodleman 4y agoIs it a form of expression to walk around in semen encrusted sweatpants?
- meheleventyone 4y agoObviously. In the same way you are largely able to say what you want even if it’s distasteful.
- josephg 4y agoExpress yourself however you want. People respond to you putting effort in, even if it’s in a direction they wouldn’t go themself. The minimum effort is being clean enough that you don’t smell and don’t have visible skid marks on your clothes. Stinking up a cafe is antisocial.
- jlawson 4y agoThere's an absolutely massive space for freedom of expression within the bounds of "not looking like shit". Nobody needs to look (or smell) like garbage to 'express' themselves.
- meheleventyone 4y agoDon’t they? Seems like an unfounded statement. Just because it’s distasteful to you it’s not valid?
- akustik 4y agoThere you go, you got it.
- goostavos 4y agoBig neckbeard energy with these comments.
- treis 4y agoIt's still essentially the same rule. Something like "Dress according to society's expectations" where it's the expectations that are changing rather than the rule. It's a meaningful difference because ultimately the signal is something like "I can meet the basic expectations of social interaction and human behavior".