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Tips were created so that non white service personal could be employed but not paid wages to, as former slave owners found the concept of directly paying for la
by snotrockets 4y ago
Tips were created so that non white service personal could be employed but not paid wages to, as former slave owners found the concept of directly paying for labor abhorrent.
They have integrated the idea of tips as the “American way” (just as much as police brutality or easy access to firearm) and it is now extremely hard to disintegrate.
France had the luxury of having it colonies an ocean away, hence less resilience to a safety net back home, as it wouldn’t protect “undesirable”. Of course, now that they have crossed the ocean, that safety net is being slowly dismantled.
- dijit 4y agoA lot of loaded comments in this and with the risk of sounding combative or ignorant: citations?
- snotrockets 4y agoTipping as a way to avoid paying non whites: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/12/16/fact-check-tipping-kept-wages-low-formerly-enslaved-black-workers/3896620001/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/12/16/fac... and basically all over research and the internet. On difference between US and European racism, and the role of the distance from the colonies: https://knowledge.insead.edu/responsibility/recognising-and-confronting-racism-europe https://knowledge.insead.edu/responsibility/recognising-and-... and a large body of research. On dismantling of the safety net in France: just read a newspaper.
- dboreham 4y agoConfirms the theory that: "everything weird in the USA will turn out to be to do with slavery".
- snotrockets 4y agoSimilar, everything different in western and central Europe can be attributed to colonialism.
- schmookeeg 4y agoSeems like this is the way out -- branding tipping as a racist throwback activity might end the ridiculous practice once and for all.
- snotrockets 4y agoWhen tipping started in the US pre civil war, it was deemed classist and thus shunned upon. It’d be poetic if it’ll be discouraged by similar reasoning again.
- seneca 4y agoThis is a political talking point, pretty far from established fact. It comes from the article you sited specifically. Here's another partisan article debunking it: https://www.aier.org/article/did-tipping-come-from-slavery-the-1619-project-lies-again/ https://www.aier.org/article/did-tipping-come-from-slavery-t...
- snotrockets 4y agoAIER also "debunk"s global warming and the recent pandemic. ffs, in the link above they quote Segrave's book, but apparently didn't read it, because it shows tipping in the US was created as a result of economic, systematic racism. And then they discuss European's custom of tipping, which people in the US originally opposed (again, see Segrave's book, which they quote, but never bothered to read)