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It’s not mandatory. Culturally, though, it’s expected so people raise a stink about it if you don’t do it. What gets me is people/businesses that say “if you c

by hacym 4y ago

It’s not mandatory. Culturally, though, it’s expected so people raise a stink about it if you don’t do it. What gets me is people/businesses that say “if you can’t afford to tip, you can’t afford to eat out”. No. If you can’t afford to pay your workers a livable wage without tips, you can’t afford to stay in business.

pessimizer 4y ago
Banning tipping is not for you, as the customer, it's for the worker. If tips were banned, they'd just be part of the price and you'd still be paying it. When you refuse to tip, it's just free riding.
- hacym 4y ago
  No, really? I’d gladly pay 10%-15% more to get eliminate tipping. Tipping sucks for consumers, sucks for employees, and is rooted in the worst parts of our history.
  - pessimizer 4y ago
    > I’d gladly pay 10%-15% more to get eliminate tipping. Next time you tip, inform your server that it has nothing to to with their performance, you're actually just adding what they would have made if they were paid appropriately to the base price. edit: I'm not being facetious, I have added 20% no matter what for at least 20 years. I've tipped servers that I'm pretty sure I hated.
    - hacym 4y ago
      No?
      - pessimizer 4y ago
        Or, don't. I'm just saying you're a free rider. edit: You're paying less for your meals than you would in your hypothetical ideal circumstance irt tipping, and that difference is coming out of the server's pocket. If it doesn't bother you, it doesn't bother you, but you're no freedom fighter.
        hacym 4y ago
        Advocating for an annoying at best, repressive and anti-worker at worst, system doesn’t make you any better than me, and your assumption I think I am some “freedom fighter” for seeing it for what it really is makes you look disingenuous. Business owners are shirking their responsibility to pay a living wage. They’re also setting up a socioeconomic reality that pits customers against workers to absolve them of that responsibility. Go ahead and keep advocating for tipping though, I’m sure you’re really making progress.

by hacym 4y ago

pessimizer 4y ago

Banning tipping is not for you, as the customer, it's for the worker. If tips were banned, they'd just be part of the price and you'd still be paying it. When you refuse to tip, it's just free riding.

hacym 4y ago
No, really? I’d gladly pay 10%-15% more to get eliminate tipping. Tipping sucks for consumers, sucks for employees, and is rooted in the worst parts of our history.
- pessimizer 4y ago
  > I’d gladly pay 10%-15% more to get eliminate tipping. Next time you tip, inform your server that it has nothing to to with their performance, you're actually just adding what they would have made if they were paid appropriately to the base price. edit: I'm not being facetious, I have added 20% no matter what for at least 20 years. I've tipped servers that I'm pretty sure I hated.
  - hacym 4y ago
    No?
    - pessimizer 4y ago
      Or, don't. I'm just saying you're a free rider. edit: You're paying less for your meals than you would in your hypothetical ideal circumstance irt tipping, and that difference is coming out of the server's pocket. If it doesn't bother you, it doesn't bother you, but you're no freedom fighter.
      - hacym 4y ago
        Advocating for an annoying at best, repressive and anti-worker at worst, system doesn’t make you any better than me, and your assumption I think I am some “freedom fighter” for seeing it for what it really is makes you look disingenuous. Business owners are shirking their responsibility to pay a living wage. They’re also setting up a socioeconomic reality that pits customers against workers to absolve them of that responsibility. Go ahead and keep advocating for tipping though, I’m sure you’re really making progress.