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>> A lot of people want to believe that all we need to do is buy electric cars The people i hear most vehemently arguing for ev adoption are quick to share a l

>> A lot of people want to believe that all we need to do is buy electric cars The people i hear most vehemently arguing for ev adoption are quick to share a laundry list of all the other things we should be doing. I haven’t run across the EV-and-we’re-done brigade. I’m not dismissing that they exist but I haven’t met them.

KennyBlanken 4y ago
Literally every time I see anything about "green transportation" from federal, state, or local government and non-profits the talk starts with and ends with electric vehicles. The feds talk some talk about alternative transit, and some cities are leaning heavily into alternate transit...but at my county and local level there's basically zero interest in public transit, walking, or biking infrastructure.
- BuyMyBitcoins 4y ago
  Advocating for walkable cities and being anti-automobile is all the rage nowadays, but that doesn’t translate well to real world action. As much as we want to, and should, redesign cities, that is a monumental undertaking that will necessarily require several decades worth of effort and billions of dollars. Switching to electric vehicles, meanwhile, does not require eminent domain and does not ask citizens to change their mobility standards. It is also something local governments don’t have to pay for.
  - paulryanrogers 4y ago
    > ...does not ask citizens to change their mobility standards. My how far we have come from "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country."
    - sokoloff 4y ago
      That challenge was to find ways to contribute in your own sphere. Converting one car to an EV (and accepting the resulting compromises) is more realistically in that spirit than something like “knock down your house and build a mid-rise on your lot” would be.
      - paulryanrogers 4y ago
        Collective action and sacrifice will be necessary to change density. Still that doesn't prevent us from adapting to more sustainable transportation modes, both collectively and personally. I was addressing the fear that governments have of disrupting current mobility 'standards'.

KennyBlanken 4y ago

Literally every time I see anything about "green transportation" from federal, state, or local government and non-profits the talk starts with and ends with electric vehicles. The feds talk some talk about alternative transit, and some cities are leaning heavily into alternate transit...but at my county and local level there's basically zero interest in public transit, walking, or biking infrastructure.

BuyMyBitcoins 4y ago
Advocating for walkable cities and being anti-automobile is all the rage nowadays, but that doesn’t translate well to real world action. As much as we want to, and should, redesign cities, that is a monumental undertaking that will necessarily require several decades worth of effort and billions of dollars. Switching to electric vehicles, meanwhile, does not require eminent domain and does not ask citizens to change their mobility standards. It is also something local governments don’t have to pay for.
- paulryanrogers 4y ago
  > ...does not ask citizens to change their mobility standards. My how far we have come from "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country."
  - sokoloff 4y ago
    That challenge was to find ways to contribute in your own sphere. Converting one car to an EV (and accepting the resulting compromises) is more realistically in that spirit than something like “knock down your house and build a mid-rise on your lot” would be.
    - paulryanrogers 4y ago
      Collective action and sacrifice will be necessary to change density. Still that doesn't prevent us from adapting to more sustainable transportation modes, both collectively and personally. I was addressing the fear that governments have of disrupting current mobility 'standards'.