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There's no such thing as nationalism without compartmentalization; by definition somebody who is a nationalist considers one nation's interests above another.

There's no such thing as nationalism without compartmentalization; by definition somebody who is a nationalist considers one nation's interests above another. When a nationalist from India comes to America for economic reasons, why would they fall in with American nationalists? They're an Indian nationalist, not an American nationalist. American nationalism is contrary to the interests of an Indian nationalist living in America. I think the mistake that might make this surprising is if you assume somebody votes Democratic because they oppose nationalism categorically. But it's easy for an Indian nationalist to oppose American nationalism specifically and not nationalism generally.

hgsgm 4y ago
Why would you assume that Indians who emigrated are nationalists at all? And "hating Muslims" is surely something Hindu nationalists and Christian nationalists agree on. Finally "American Nationalists" doesn't even make sense, it's a tautology since 1789 or the War of 1812. The US right wing is (partly) Christian Nationalisy. Nationalism means excluding someone from a nation based on religious, ethnic, or other basis. It's trying to make the nation for Hindus or Christians or the local population or whatever. "Indian nationalism" mean separating from the British. Muslims and Hindus are both Indians.
- LarryMullins 4y ago
  > Why would you assume that Indians who emigrated are nationalists at all? I don't assume all of them are, nor did I suggest it. I know that many of them are, because that's what opinion polling reveals. American nationalists and Indian nationalists may have some commonalities, like hating Muslims, but American nationalists have no love for Hindus either so it would be weird for Indian nationalists living in America to cozy up with American nationalists.
ShredKazoo 4y ago
>There's no such thing as nationalism without compartmentalization; by definition somebody who is a nationalist considers one nation's interests above another. Actually I don't think this is necessarily true. In the West you sometimes see nationalist parties from different countries finding some common ground, e.g. some right-wingers in the US have expressed admiration for Orbán's government in Hungary. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44926417 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44926417 There's nothing inherently incompatible with the statement "American government should focus on solving problems for American citizens" and the statement "Indian government should focus on solving problems for Indian citizens"

hgsgm 4y ago

Why would you assume that Indians who emigrated are nationalists at all? And "hating Muslims" is surely something Hindu nationalists and Christian nationalists agree on. Finally "American Nationalists" doesn't even make sense, it's a tautology since 1789 or the War of 1812. The US right wing is (partly) Christian Nationalisy. Nationalism means excluding someone from a nation based on religious, ethnic, or other basis. It's trying to make the nation for Hindus or Christians or the local population or whatever. "Indian nationalism" mean separating from the British. Muslims and Hindus are both Indians.

LarryMullins 4y ago
> Why would you assume that Indians who emigrated are nationalists at all? I don't assume all of them are, nor did I suggest it. I know that many of them are, because that's what opinion polling reveals. American nationalists and Indian nationalists may have some commonalities, like hating Muslims, but American nationalists have no love for Hindus either so it would be weird for Indian nationalists living in America to cozy up with American nationalists.

ShredKazoo 4y ago

>There's no such thing as nationalism without compartmentalization; by definition somebody who is a nationalist considers one nation's interests above another. Actually I don't think this is necessarily true. In the West you sometimes see nationalist parties from different countries finding some common ground, e.g. some right-wingers in the US have expressed admiration for Orbán's government in Hungary. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44926417 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44926417 There's nothing inherently incompatible with the statement "American government should focus on solving problems for American citizens" and the statement "Indian government should focus on solving problems for Indian citizens"