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marked as duplicate https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34504085 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34504085 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34511831 ht

marked as duplicate https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34504085 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34504085 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34511831 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34511831 These were not taken down. Anyways who cares what the BBC has to say about India. They are not exactly a known unbiased source when it comes to coverage of India and never have been. I slightly agree with some of your thoughts on speaking your mind freely on this board however its probably for the best. Dang knows this place turning into a cesspool is not useful. I will say to other hacker news commentators please do not downvote if you disagree with a comment. Discourse is important but I do agree anonymous discourse is much more nuanced I do not understand how this post is number one. Are you saying Hacker News can promote certain posts to the top and it is not organically curated?

croes 4y ago
It's not about what the BBC says but what India does to prevent others seeing what the BBC says.
- codetrotter 4y ago
  Elaborate
counttheforks 4y ago
A dupe of 3 and 4 day old posts, which got nearly 200 comments? No. It is not reasonable to just remove that. This is censorship. Especially when you consider that dang tends to instead just post a comment saying: "Previously discussed at ..." > I do not understand how this post is number one. Are you saying Hacker News can promote certain posts to the top and it is not organically curated? Absolutely, yes. The mods can influence the ranking directly and they have openly talked about this. If you search https://hn.algolia.com/ https://hn.algolia.com/ for "penalized", "demoted" or "promoted" you will find discussions regarding this. --- Since dang banned me from posting new replies: > Maybe you haven’t been here long enough to have read the FAQ or know that generally all dupes from 3-4 days ago are marked, and only allowed after at least several months? I've been here for many years. I just make a new account periodically. Maybe you haven't been paying enough attention to see the difference in behavior that dang exhibits when he wants to censor something? Notice how he's usually all over the comments explaining why something was removed as dupe, but now there is nothing except him linking to the older posts (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34559614 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34559614), waiting for an hour or two, and then silently deleting the new one. Not to mention that the subject of the post is completely different. The latest post is about the documentary being removed from archive.org at the request of the BBC. None of the earlier posts cover this.
- dahart 4y ago
  Maybe you haven’t been here long enough to have read the FAQ or know that generally all dupes from 3-4 days ago are marked, and only allowed after at least several months? https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html “If a story has not had significant attention in the last year or so, a small number of reposts is ok. Otherwise we bury reposts as duplicates.”
- dahart 4y ago
  I’m confused by your comment and edits. You both asked for and complained about being given a reason why the article is a dupe. Which is it? The comment explains why using those two links. Why has this particular article gotten you so riled up? I come here in part for the moderation, it increases the quality of discussions. It’s not surprising that if you keep making a lot of noise and trying to generate off-topic outrage, it might be met with some active moderation, that’s exactly what I would expect, and I’m sorry it’s bothering you so much, but FWIW I don’t mind that it’s happening, and it does seem reasonable and in-bounds from my perspective. BTW to me it seems like you might be making some incorrect assumptions about what’s happening and why; the news topic does seem to be covered adequately with the first one or two articles.
  - counttheforks 4y ago
    > You both asked for and complained about being given a reason why the article is a dupe. Which is it? Dang posted the links to the previous stories, didn't mark the post as a dupe or say anything about it being a dupe. Because it's not. Then two hours later it silently got deleted.
    - dahart 4y ago
      It is marked as dupe, and not deleted, we can still see it. Why does it matter if there was a time delay between the two things you saw? What does that have to do with anything?
      - bobobob420 4y ago

croes 4y ago

It's not about what the BBC says but what India does to prevent others seeing what the BBC says.

codetrotter 4y ago
Elaborate

counttheforks 4y ago

A dupe of 3 and 4 day old posts, which got nearly 200 comments? No. It is not reasonable to just remove that. This is censorship. Especially when you consider that dang tends to instead just post a comment saying: "Previously discussed at ..." > I do not understand how this post is number one. Are you saying Hacker News can promote certain posts to the top and it is not organically curated? Absolutely, yes. The mods can influence the ranking directly and they have openly talked about this. If you search https://hn.algolia.com/ https://hn.algolia.com/ for "penalized", "demoted" or "promoted" you will find discussions regarding this. --- Since dang banned me from posting new replies: > Maybe you haven’t been here long enough to have read the FAQ or know that generally all dupes from 3-4 days ago are marked, and only allowed after at least several months? I've been here for many years. I just make a new account periodically. Maybe you haven't been paying enough attention to see the difference in behavior that dang exhibits when he wants to censor something? Notice how he's usually all over the comments explaining why something was removed as dupe, but now there is nothing except him linking to the older posts (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34559614 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34559614), waiting for an hour or two, and then silently deleting the new one. Not to mention that the subject of the post is completely different. The latest post is about the documentary being removed from archive.org at the request of the BBC. None of the earlier posts cover this.

dahart 4y ago
Maybe you haven’t been here long enough to have read the FAQ or know that generally all dupes from 3-4 days ago are marked, and only allowed after at least several months? https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html “If a story has not had significant attention in the last year or so, a small number of reposts is ok. Otherwise we bury reposts as duplicates.”
dahart 4y ago
I’m confused by your comment and edits. You both asked for and complained about being given a reason why the article is a dupe. Which is it? The comment explains why using those two links. Why has this particular article gotten you so riled up? I come here in part for the moderation, it increases the quality of discussions. It’s not surprising that if you keep making a lot of noise and trying to generate off-topic outrage, it might be met with some active moderation, that’s exactly what I would expect, and I’m sorry it’s bothering you so much, but FWIW I don’t mind that it’s happening, and it does seem reasonable and in-bounds from my perspective. BTW to me it seems like you might be making some incorrect assumptions about what’s happening and why; the news topic does seem to be covered adequately with the first one or two articles.
- counttheforks 4y ago
  > You both asked for and complained about being given a reason why the article is a dupe. Which is it? Dang posted the links to the previous stories, didn't mark the post as a dupe or say anything about it being a dupe. Because it's not. Then two hours later it silently got deleted.
  - dahart 4y ago
    It is marked as dupe, and not deleted, we can still see it. Why does it matter if there was a time delay between the two things you saw? What does that have to do with anything?
    - bobobob420 4y ago