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Woh. I didn't even know the anti-abortion people have an argument. I thought you people just wave signs and shout at the rest of us. I appreciate the way you l

Woh. I didn't even know the anti-abortion people have an argument. I thought you people just wave signs and shout at the rest of us. I appreciate the way you lay out your argument but I refuse to agree because if you're right the consequences would be too much to grapple with.

29athrowaway 4y ago
So in your opinion, killing a Down syndrome in gestation, only because they have Down syndrome, is properly justified? Because that is the unspoken reality in 2023. Some abortions are justified, others aren't. A legislative compromise was done that lets unjustified abortions take place, enabling a loophole for eugenics. If we embark in this eugenics journey, where does it stop? Should everyone with a GPA of less than 4.0 be killed? Should everyone not capable of running a marathon be killed? Should everyone with less than 1000 followers on TikTok be killed? Should everyone not able to name at least 100 Pokemons be killed? Should everyone with a chess ELO below 1000 be killed? Should everyone not able to solve a Rubik's cube be killed? Who defines what the minimum threshold to be worthy of life and reproduction is? Eugenics is wrong and we should be able to say it. I've met people with Down syndrome who are formidable and inspire me to be a better person. People who have to wake up every morning and be resilient in an unforgiving world. And it makes me sick to think how many of them are being killed. Steve Jobs was once a homeless person who consumed acid and ate charitable meals at Hare Krishna temples. A hard-line eugenics moron would have probably declared him unworthy of life or reproduction. Likewise, among the brilliant scientists and engineers that once put a man on the moon there are descendants of poor immigrants that arrived to America on boats infested with rodents, fleas and lice, many of whom had low IQ from malnourishment and exposure to pollution, and were also illiterate and unable to read. Eugenics is a stupid doctrine.
timbit42 4y ago
Anyone who is Jewish or Christian should know that the Bible doesn't consider the unborn to be human until it exits the mother at birth, but until then it is potentially human. This means killing the unborn is not murder and is not immoral in itself. Strangely, Evangelicals think killing the unborn is murder. In my opinion, they like to interpret their scriptures in a way that matches their pre-conceived ideas. For anyone who is not religious, the entire process of procreation through to birth is life. There is no point at which life begins because every part of the process is life. If any part of the process wasn't life, it wouldn't work. Everything the parent said is correct.
- 29athrowaway 4y ago
  The Jewish bible and the "Christian" (Roman Catholic) bible differ. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea

29athrowaway 4y ago

So in your opinion, killing a Down syndrome in gestation, only because they have Down syndrome, is properly justified? Because that is the unspoken reality in 2023. Some abortions are justified, others aren't. A legislative compromise was done that lets unjustified abortions take place, enabling a loophole for eugenics. If we embark in this eugenics journey, where does it stop? Should everyone with a GPA of less than 4.0 be killed? Should everyone not capable of running a marathon be killed? Should everyone with less than 1000 followers on TikTok be killed? Should everyone not able to name at least 100 Pokemons be killed? Should everyone with a chess ELO below 1000 be killed? Should everyone not able to solve a Rubik's cube be killed? Who defines what the minimum threshold to be worthy of life and reproduction is? Eugenics is wrong and we should be able to say it. I've met people with Down syndrome who are formidable and inspire me to be a better person. People who have to wake up every morning and be resilient in an unforgiving world. And it makes me sick to think how many of them are being killed. Steve Jobs was once a homeless person who consumed acid and ate charitable meals at Hare Krishna temples. A hard-line eugenics moron would have probably declared him unworthy of life or reproduction. Likewise, among the brilliant scientists and engineers that once put a man on the moon there are descendants of poor immigrants that arrived to America on boats infested with rodents, fleas and lice, many of whom had low IQ from malnourishment and exposure to pollution, and were also illiterate and unable to read. Eugenics is a stupid doctrine.

timbit42 4y ago

Anyone who is Jewish or Christian should know that the Bible doesn't consider the unborn to be human until it exits the mother at birth, but until then it is potentially human. This means killing the unborn is not murder and is not immoral in itself. Strangely, Evangelicals think killing the unborn is murder. In my opinion, they like to interpret their scriptures in a way that matches their pre-conceived ideas. For anyone who is not religious, the entire process of procreation through to birth is life. There is no point at which life begins because every part of the process is life. If any part of the process wasn't life, it wouldn't work. Everything the parent said is correct.

29athrowaway 4y ago
The Jewish bible and the "Christian" (Roman Catholic) bible differ. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea