It’s from an early People I Mostly Admire episode but I can’t remember which one and their archive is difficult to search. I can’t remember the incantation to

It’s from an early People I Mostly Admire episode but I can’t remember which one and their archive is difficult to search. I can’t remember the incantation to find the underlying paper they were talking about either. And as you noted, Google has become bad at this sort of thing because most people don’t want those sorts of results.